On July 29, 2020 at 5:17:04 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:54 PM Alvaro Retana wrote:
Chris: Hi! ... > > - The use of "Internet networks" doesn't sound right...perhaps "Internet- > > connected networks"? Looking at the rest of the charter, I assume that, > > Job an I had a concern (I think we both shared this concern) about limiting > the problems/solutions/monitoring/etc to 'internet-connected'. > I think that 'bgp' (or external routing protocols) are used on both > 'internet connected' and 'all the other' IP networks, right? > should the benefits GROW pushes for be limited to 'internet connected' ? > > (I agree the current wording could use some help, how do we capture > the idea that any IP network that ends up using a bgp can benefit?) > > > for example, the operations of BGP in a non-Internet-connected network (a > > data center, for example) is not within the scope of grow. Is that the > > intent, or am I reading too much into it? > > i think we were hoping to cover both, actually. our wording choice > wasn't great :) Personally, I think that benefiting all networks would be better. But then I think there's maybe some more words required to set the right scope. A couple of questions: - Does grow want to focus on "global routing" (which seems to imply Internet-connected) or on general routing operations? Or maybe operations of inter-domain routing protocols? - So far the focus has been on exterior routing, so mainly interacting with sidrops/idr makes sense. The first paragraph talks about "interactions between interior and exterior routing protocols"; should the operation of the IGPs also be in scope? All of them? I think that we could debate this forever. Assuming that the WG wants to keep the current focus, a simple change might be: OLD> GROW will also advise various working groups, specifically IDR and SIDROPS, with respect to whether it is addressing the relevant operational and routing security requirements of Internet networks, and where appropriate, suggest course corrections. NEW> GROW will also advise various working groups, mainly IDR and SIDROPS, with respect to whether it is addressing the relevant operational and routing security requirements of networks using inter-domain routing protocols, and where appropriate, suggest course corrections. At this point I'm just suggesting a color for the bike shed... Thanks! Alvaro. _______________________________________________ GROW mailing list GROW@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/grow
