Ludovic Courtès <[email protected]> writes:

> Hi Florian,
>
> "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <[email protected]> skribis:
>
>> I don’t understand what is allowed for whom.
>>
>> I feel I need a flowchart.
>>
>> And will I need to remove Chinese GPT4o translations even though they
>> are not used until review because of the fuzzy mark?
>>
>> Either way, Weblate users have write access to guix/translations repo
>> without agreeing to any commitments.
>>
>> Please make that clearer.
>
> Could you please read the latest version, commitments and policy, and
> explain what you find ambiguous?

My impression is that all GCD 008 versions are quite strict on the use
of all generative AI, despite some exceptions in the latest proposed
policy versions that Maxim criticized.  I seek ambiguity in legal
significance more than there really is in the policy.

Ambiguity stems from the difference of commitments and of policy to what
has been accepted by me and Julien Lepiller for translations so far.

We should make a clear choice against AI in the GCD, or alternatively
not make claims about translations.

Status quo is not strict.  Some translations get improved (Romanian,
Russian, maybe but not sure about Korean), some existing translations
get reduced in quality (Serbian, Swedish, Spanish) clearly because of
machine translations.

A strict policy looks nice if we don’t want this meandering quality, but
then Weblate is not sustainable without gating access.

It can be observed that some translators use AI responsibly apparently
[1].  Julien Lepiller argued Translation Project is not an option and
wrote about policy:

> Even if we cannot enforce a policy on translators, we can self-impose
> (as committers or team members?) not using machine-generated content
> to fill or review translations. It's a bit weak compared to the rest
> of the pledge but it's better than nothing at all. Even for the TP, I
> don't think we can force translators to make a pledge about anything.

Regards,
Florian

[1] Arvind uses machine translation but reads and fixes mistakes:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/thread/N453SMEBCIDR24LTSUBW5KY7RSWDJ65Z/

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