On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 12:24 AM CST Onno Meyer wrote:

>Eric replied to me:
>> In the old Pyramid, I had written a series of articles about "Punk" from 
>> 0+8 to 6+4 and it generally revolved around finding, exploiting, and 
>> publicly adopting some form of energy that was not present in the real 
>> world, and then exploring the consequences.
>
>I'm thinking about TL5 steampunk designs -- who needs +n 
>if "by the book" TL5 can do so much more than historical 
>TL5 did? Take the motorcycle I just posted.

I prefer the +n to account for TL6+ items such as legs, improved steam engines 
and wireless telegraph.

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