Johannes replied  to me:

Surviving a hit from a TL10 or TL11 tank would be close to impossible. But there are categories to consider beyond outdated/civilian weapons ...

* Armor against the point defense systems of modern AFVs. Force them to use serious guns rather than flyswatters.

The suits or grav bikes would behave somewhat different then missles. The first stay at some distance and shoot at you (possibly even with missles), while the latter try to get as close as possible to you as fast as possible.

So propably point defence systems are not really optimized for shooting at suits/bikes. Especially if they go for High ROF Low Power, they practically will be more like area effect weapons.

Yes, that low power was why I mentioned point defense first. The systems would have some power in order to get a decent range, call it 10d(2) or thereabouts. And missiles are small, fast targets, so anything which can hit them might do well against low-and-slow targets as long as there is LOS. DR 100 would be good against that, and against fragments as well.


* Armor against modern "rifle-style" weapons carried by unpowered troops (i.e. in the 10-lb. range).

Depends on how much that costs. I guess armor against a high powered sniper riffle with some sort of armor piercing ammunition would be difficult to achieve. But propably you can force your enemy to use some ammo, that is in other situations suboptimal, or use riffles that sacrifice ROF for power or something like that.

* Armor against modern "underbarrel-GL-style" weapons carried by unpowered troops. Force them to expend LAWs.


I would put grenades under area effect weapons.

The area effect from a 40mm shell or even a 50mm rocket won't be able to hurt TL11 armor. For that reason, I was assuming HEDP or HEAT grenades against individual targets.


If the sensors are designed to overcome TL11 emission cloaking and stealth, would a bit of rubble be enough to hide?


Rubble by itself no. But there might be still active powerlines and other utilities infrastructure, emergency power generators, civilian vehicles in various states, buildings that are still in some sort of use or an other.

All of thoose will be detected by the sensors and you propably have a chance to pretend to be one of them.

The description of TL10+ deceptive jammers might cover such trickery.

Regards,
Onno
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