fyi,
I just now unloaded jaws 9, on an xp system, and loaded window eyes 7
with eloquence. I went to it's window, and began going through menus
looking to make some changes. It lost speech within say 15 seconds!!!
I couldn't get it to restart, and I accidentally shutdown windows while
trying to shutdown window eyes.
no message in the error logs of windows.
This is why I come up in jaws by default right now, even though I badly
want to switch over.
I withdraw my guess that either xp or eloquence were more stable.
Chip
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Chip Orange
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Naessens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: GW Micro
> Subject: Re: instability problems
>
> I agree wholeheartedly when it comes to the potential which
> is offered by
> scripting. In fact, it is what justifies the price of this
> upgrade. But to
> me, stability of the product is the most important concern. Perhaps
> switching to decTalk would be a solution. But there are some
> of us who just
> don't like how DecTalk sounds. Should we have to use it after
> spending $175
> for an upgrade? From where I sit, we shouldn't. Furthermore,
> I don't believe
> that is GW's intent. Still further, some on this list have tried that
> solution and it hasn't succeeded for them.
>
> I would submit that championing this upgrade is much easier
> for those on the
> list who have it working as it should. For those of us who
> don't have it
> working as it should just yet, praising the upgrade is a bit
> premature, as
> is turming the upgrade a bust. For the present, I'm trying to
> maintain a
> wait and see attitude. I'm confident that GW Micro is aware
> that many of us
> are having difficulties and will remedy the issue, hopefully
> soon. After
> all, since upgrades are mandatory, rock solid is only as solid as the
> current version.
>
> Larry
>
>
> Larry Naessens
> Vinyl Trans4mations
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> Bradford, Ontario
> Phone: 905 918 0658
>
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> brand new CDs
> that you can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at
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> welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before
> sending us your
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Darren Harris'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> "'Larry Naessens'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Rays Home'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'GW Micro'" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:53 AM
> Subject: RE: instability problems
>
>
> > If you are a serious Winamp user you'll be glad for scripting in
> > Window-Eyes. If you like hearing progress indicators when a file
> > downloads,
> > you'll be glad for scripting in Window-Eyes. If you want Skype
> > functionality
> > that is on par with JFW, you'll be glad for scripting in
> Window-Eyes. If
> > you
> > want to use a hotkey to hear the name, date, or size of a
> file in Windows
> > Explorer without listening through all that information,
> you'll be glad of
> > scripting in Window-Eyes. If you want to use a bar code
> scanner to get
> > information about the canned goods in your kitchen without
> laying out the
> > money for a specialized program to help with this, you'll
> be glad for
> > scripting in Window-Eyes. Are there some lingering problems
> with the final
> > release of Window-Eyes left over from the latest beta, for
> some this seems
> > to be the case. Is Window-Eyes 7 an unqualified disaster?
> Not according to
> > the vast majority of the members of this list. I will
> probably go back to
> > Dec Access 32 on my system because for whatever reason my
> computer just
> > doesn't seem to like Eloquence very much using Window-Eyes.
> Short of
> > sending
> > my machine to the company, I can't see much way around this
> issue; not a
> > big
> > deal for me. I could list at least one quirky thing my
> computer did using
> > Jaws that other people couldn't reproduce, but that is not
> why I abandoned
> > the product. I am truly sympathetic with you if you are
> truly having an
> > unpleasant experience with Window-Eyes 7. I suspect,
> however, that if you
> > are having catastrophic results with Window-Eyes 7, we the
> list and GW
> > Micro
> > staff can probably help you troubleshoot the problem. I may
> be wrong, but
> > I'll bet I'm not. Just my two cents worth.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Darren Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:37 AM
> > To: 'Larry Naessens'; 'Rays Home'
> > Cc: 'GW Micro'
> > Subject: RE: instability problems
> >
> > I haven't got any scripts installed at all. And by the
> sounds of it, I'm
> > seriously glad I haven't bothered.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Naessens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 23 September 2008 02:38
> > To: Rays Home
> > Cc: GW Micro
> > Subject: Re: instability problems
> >
> >
> > Similar problems here with 3 gigs of ram. WE packs upp its
> tinker toys
> > and
> > stops talking whenever I get an explorer error Outlook
> Express error or
> > doctor Watson post mortem debugger error, whatever that is.
> If there is
> > a
> > workaround for the situation, I'd like to know what it is.
> I'm having
> > to
> > restart when this happens and I don't think that's
> anybody's solution. I
> > do
> > know that others are using decTalk with some success, but
> that is not an
> >
> > acceptable alternative from where I sit.
> >
> > Oddly enough, this started happening with greater frequency
> . since I
> > loaded
> > the final version of 7.0. All I can think to do is to start
> iliminating
> > scripts one by one and see what happens.
> >
> > Anyone with any other suggestions? I'm open to suggestions.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > Larry Naessens
> > Vinyl Trans4mations
> > A Division of Jalana Enterprises
> > Bradford, Ontario
> > Phone: 905 918 0658
> >
> > Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest
> > At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn old records and tapes into
> brand new CDs
> >
> > that you can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at
> www.vinylguycafe.com.
> > We
> > welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before
> sending us your
> > media, please contact us for important shipping instructions.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rays Home" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: instability problems
> >
> >
> >> Sorry, but I have to agree with this post.
> >>
> >> I've had three Window-Eyes outages since installing the
> final release
> >> where speech has disappeard and, Window-Eyes itself which, though
> > still
> >> running as a task, cannot be accessed via control backslash. I am
> > using
> >> an external Apollo synth.
> >>
> >> Plenty of RAM at 1GB, under XP Pro and Windows kept current.
> >>
> >> Afraid GW's reputation for a rock solid product is going
> to take a bit
> >
> >> of
> >> a pasting on this one. Add to that instability of browse
> mode - which
> >
> >> isn't quite so bad now in W-E7 - then you have two issues
> that should
> >> really be looked into before the next major upgrade. (By the way,
> > using
> >> 6.1 via an USB stick on a friends computer more than a week back
> > revealed
> >> the same losing browse mode problem.)
> >>
> >> I certainly don't like aring these things on-list, but honesty and
> >> straightforwardness is the best POLICY. gw MOST CERTAINLY
> is A BETTER
> >
> >> COMPANY TO DEAL WITH THAN SOME THAT COULD BE MENTIONED SO I'm NOT
> > going
> >> anywhere else.
> >>
> >> Ray.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Chris Belle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Re: instability problems
> >>
> >>
> >>> Guys,
> >>>
> >>> This is the first release of we after major surgery to
> get scripting
> >>> online.
> >>>
> >>> Some patience is in order certainly, but
> >>> I think that we 7 was release pre-maturely and that more
> time should
> >>> have
> >>> been spent on fixing core issues.
> >>>
> >>> We is reasonably stable here, but not as stable as 6.1 was.
> >>>
> >>> There are still issues with list views crashing, and eloquence is
> >>> sluggish.
> >>>
> >>> Drag and drop is broken, and user windows behave strangely so
> >>> set-files
> >>> don't translate properly, but this is somewhat expected because
> > changes
> >>> were made to make we better at window titles and such.
> >>>
> >>> Osm corruptions in edits are worse.
> >>>
> >>> I'm hopeful that there will be a service pack to fix some of these
> >>> issues
> >>> soon.
> >>>
> >>>
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