I agree wholeheartedly when it comes to the potential which is offered by scripting. In fact, it is what justifies the price of this upgrade. But to me, stability of the product is the most important concern. Perhaps switching to decTalk would be a solution. But there are some of us who just don't like how DecTalk sounds. Should we have to use it after spending $175 for an upgrade? From where I sit, we shouldn't. Furthermore, I don't believe that is GW's intent. Still further, some on this list have tried that solution and it hasn't succeeded for them.

I would submit that championing this upgrade is much easier for those on the list who have it working as it should. For those of us who don't have it working as it should just yet, praising the upgrade is a bit premature, as is turming the upgrade a bust. For the present, I'm trying to maintain a wait and see attitude. I'm confident that GW Micro is aware that many of us are having difficulties and will remedy the issue, hopefully soon. After all, since upgrades are mandatory, rock solid is only as solid as the current version.

Larry


Larry Naessens
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A Division of Jalana Enterprises
Bradford, Ontario
Phone: 905 918 0658

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Darren Harris'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Larry Naessens'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Rays Home'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'GW Micro'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: instability problems


If you are a serious Winamp user you'll be glad for scripting in
Window-Eyes. If you like hearing progress indicators when a file downloads, you'll be glad for scripting in Window-Eyes. If you want Skype functionality that is on par with JFW, you'll be glad for scripting in Window-Eyes. If you
want to use a hotkey to hear the name, date, or size of a file in Windows
Explorer without listening through all that information, you'll be glad of
scripting in Window-Eyes. If you want to use a bar code scanner to get
information about the canned goods in your kitchen without laying out the
money for a specialized program to help with this, you'll be glad for
scripting in Window-Eyes. Are there some lingering problems with the final
release of Window-Eyes left over from the latest beta, for some this seems
to be the case. Is Window-Eyes 7 an unqualified disaster? Not according to
the vast majority of the members of this list. I will probably go back to
Dec Access 32 on my system because for whatever reason my computer just
doesn't seem to like Eloquence very much using Window-Eyes. Short of sending my machine to the company, I can't see much way around this issue; not a big
deal for me. I could list at least one quirky thing my computer did using
Jaws that other people couldn't reproduce, but that is not why I abandoned
the product. I am truly sympathetic with you if you are truly having an
unpleasant experience with Window-Eyes 7. I suspect, however, that if you
are having catastrophic results with Window-Eyes 7, we the list and GW Micro
staff can probably help you troubleshoot the problem. I may be wrong, but
I'll bet I'm not. Just my two cents worth.

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:37 AM
To: 'Larry Naessens'; 'Rays Home'
Cc: 'GW Micro'
Subject: RE: instability problems

I haven't got any scripts installed at all. And by the sounds of it, I'm
seriously glad I haven't bothered.

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Naessens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 September 2008 02:38
To: Rays Home
Cc: GW Micro
Subject: Re: instability problems


Similar problems here with 3  gigs of ram. WE packs upp its tinker toys
and
stops talking whenever I get an explorer error Outlook Express error or
doctor Watson post mortem debugger error, whatever that is. If there is
a
workaround  for the situation, I'd like to know what it is. I'm having
to
restart when this happens and I don't think that's anybody's solution. I
do
know that others are using decTalk with some success, but that is not an

acceptable alternative from where I sit.

Oddly enough, this started happening with greater frequency . since I
loaded
the final version of 7.0. All I can think to do is to start iliminating
scripts one by one and see what happens.

Anyone with any other suggestions? I'm open to suggestions.

Larry

Larry Naessens
Vinyl Trans4mations
A Division of Jalana Enterprises
Bradford, Ontario
Phone: 905 918 0658

Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest
At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn old records and tapes into brand new CDs

that you can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at www.vinylguycafe.com.
We
welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before sending us your
media, please contact us for important shipping instructions.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rays Home" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: instability problems


Sorry, but I have to agree with this post.

I've had three Window-Eyes outages since installing the final release
where speech has disappeard and, Window-Eyes itself which, though
still
running as a task, cannot be accessed via control backslash.  I am
using
an external Apollo synth.

Plenty of RAM at 1GB, under XP Pro and Windows kept current.

Afraid GW's reputation for a rock solid product is going to take a bit

of
a pasting on this one.  Add to that instability of browse mode - which

isn't quite so bad now in W-E7 - then you have two issues that should
really be looked into before the next major upgrade.  (By the way,
using
6.1 via an USB stick on a friends computer more than a week back
revealed
the same losing browse mode problem.)

I certainly don't like aring these things on-list, but honesty and
straightforwardness is the best POLICY.  gw MOST CERTAINLY is A BETTER

COMPANY TO DEAL WITH THAN SOME THAT COULD BE MENTIONED SO I'm NOT
going
anywhere else.

Ray.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Belle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: instability problems


Guys,

This is the first release of we after major surgery to get scripting
online.

Some patience is in order certainly, but
I think that we 7 was release pre-maturely and that more time should
have
been spent on fixing core issues.

We is reasonably stable here, but not as stable as 6.1 was.

There are still issues with list views crashing, and eloquence is
sluggish.

Drag and drop is broken, and user windows behave strangely so
set-files
don't translate properly, but this is somewhat expected because
changes
were made to make we better at window titles and such.

Osm corruptions in edits are worse.

I'm hopeful that there will be a service pack to fix some of these
issues
soon.



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