Hi Marvin,

If you get this crash again, and I have had it occasionally, try immediately
hitting Alt-D.  This is the Don't Send Details button.  Explorer will close,
and WE will come back.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Marvin Commerford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday 22 September 2008 15:46
To: Mike Pietruk; John G
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: instability problems

Hi.  There's another situation that crops up on my system quite often.  It 
seems that WE has crashed but in fact it has not.  If, for example, Windows 
Explorer crashes an error dialog pops up.  On my system it totally locks WE 
up.  No WE key works like the ctrl-insert-f4 to close WE.  No speech comes 
through at all.  If I start NVDA I can navigate to the error dialog.  Once I

close the error dialog WE also starts talking again.  I turn off NVDA and 
continue with what I was doing.  So, WE didn't crash but somehow it's locked

out until the error dialog is closed.  I hope this at some point can be 
resolved since I don't remember having to do the same thing in 6.1 when 
Explorer blew up.  It's possible that this just happens on this machine.  In

the mean time I do have a reasonable work around that seems to work all the 
time.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: instability problems


>I Truly believe that much of this is due to turning on scripts -- and
> probably specific scripts if one wished to take it a bit further.
> I've turned off scripting using it only sparingly, and it is now reacting
> more or less as 6.1 did.
> Yes, there are the occasional speech losses; but I have learned to expect
> this since day 1.
> Probably, if one began isolating scripts, certain ones may be causing
> given individuals more of a headache.
> This may be a necessary tradeoff opening the screen reader to this new
> power.
> Given that these often will be 3rd party creations, this may be a bit
> tricky to deal with at times.
>
>
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