Actually, it's probably more of a learning style thing. Where I prefer reading manuals or tutorials, others require more of that hand's on demonstration and give and take of a live training session.
Jason Symes Visit my web site at: http://home.mchsi.com/~jsymes In most television commercials advertising milk, a mixture of white paint and a little thinner is used in place of the milk. -----Original Message----- From: bob jutzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: jammed up with jaws I'm sure there's something I'm missing here, but with both the manual and tutorials included as audio on the CD, what is the need for extra training? Or is it mainly intended for those new to Window-eyes? Grant it, I've been using Window-eyes since the days of 2.1 and 3.1. Bob > > > dennis wrote: >> in my opinion gw micro should have a payment plan for training as >> well >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dogsc4me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:56 PM >> Subject: jammed up with jaws >> >> >>> Cheree Heppe here: >>> >>> When I relocated to Portland, Oregon last August, one of the people >>> in one of the disability agencies, maybe it was at the Oregon >>> Commission or at Independent Living Resources suggested I get a JAWS >>> evaluation. The person strongly implied JAWS served best for any >>> serious job seeker or workplace situation. >>> >>> However, I had vastly different experiences. Even at the IRS >>> training for blind candidates jobbed out to the Arkansas Lions World >>> Center or whatever they're calling that place these days, the Jaws >>> barely did it. There was constant interference with the JAWS program >>> and constant need for work arounds, usually designed and assisted by >>> the sighted, so the blind could do whatever job the blind do. >>> >>> The Jaws evaluation took place at Independent Living Resources. I >>> brought my laptop to see how the programs did in a side-by-side >>> comparison. In what we did, E-mail, website surfing, document >>> processing, Window-Eyes did at least as well as Jaws and in many >>> ways, worked much more seamlessly and stayed in the background, like >>> a well-behaved screen reader ought to do. The upshot was I decided I >>> didn't need the JAWS training. Subsequently, someone from the Oregon >>> Commission wrote a letter decrying my non-conversion to the Jaws >>> platform, along with other case-related nonsense. >>> >>> I have been blessed to have found a number of good jobs myself. >>> Since my acquisition of Window-Eyes, the Windows access has been >>> mostly Windows based without a lot of additional over-the-top, extra >>> commands that the screen reader has to be invoked about, just to get >>> the job done. >>> >>> The Window-Eyes training happening tomorrow in Portland should be a >>> very good enhancement for those having access to it. I have a part >>> time job now and am looking for a full time one, but the Commission >>> maneuvers its clients into positions of disability and because of >>> this stance, I am not going to be able to take advantage of the >>> Window-Eyes hands-on training in my home town. I offered to pay >>> $250.00 over two months to GW Micro in payment for the training. This >>> was not mad money. I guarantee you my daughter and I could use the >>> funds for necessities, but then, who defines necessities? The party >>> I spoke with at GW Micro suggested I charge the whole thing on a >>> credit card instead. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Cheree Heppe >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Richcreek Enterprises" >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:45 AM >>> Subject: Re: I'm scared >>> >>> >>>> I have also been watching the thread about these same issues and I >>>> haven't >>>> loaded my CD yet either. The one thing that I have been noticing is >>>> that the >>>> people that uninstalled WinEyes before loading the new version 7 >>>> have not >>>> been having any of the same problems but I could be wrong about >>>> everyone >>>> that has done this. I would appreciate if anyone knows this for sure >>>> to let >>>> us know. Thanks, Craig B. 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