I'm sure there's something I'm missing here, but with both the manual
 and tutorials included as audio on the CD, what is the need for extra
 training?  Or is it mainly intended for those new to Window-eyes?  Grant
 it, I've been using Window-eyes since the days of 2.1 and 3.1.

 Bob


dennis wrote:
in my opinion gw micro should have a payment plan for training as well
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dogsc4me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 12:56 PM
Subject: jammed up with jaws


Cheree Heppe here:

When I relocated to Portland, Oregon last August, one of the people in one of the disability agencies, maybe it was at the Oregon Commission or at Independent Living Resources suggested I get a JAWS evaluation. The person strongly implied JAWS served best for any serious job seeker or workplace situation.

However, I had vastly different experiences. Even at the IRS training for blind candidates jobbed out to the Arkansas Lions World Center or whatever they're calling that place these days, the Jaws barely did it. There was constant interference with the JAWS program and constant need for work arounds, usually designed and assisted by the sighted, so the blind could do whatever job the blind do.

The Jaws evaluation took place at Independent Living Resources. I brought my laptop to see how the programs did in a side-by-side comparison. In what we did, E-mail, website surfing, document processing, Window-Eyes did at least as well as Jaws and in many ways, worked much more seamlessly and stayed in the background, like a well-behaved screen reader ought to do. The upshot was I decided I didn't need the JAWS training. Subsequently, someone from the Oregon Commission wrote a letter decrying my non-conversion to the Jaws platform, along with other case-related nonsense.

I have been blessed to have found a number of good jobs myself. Since my acquisition of Window-Eyes, the Windows access has been mostly Windows based without a lot of additional over-the-top, extra commands that the screen reader has to be invoked about, just to get the job done.

The Window-Eyes training happening tomorrow in Portland should be a very good enhancement for those having access to it. I have a part time job now and am looking for a full time one, but the Commission maneuvers its clients into positions of disability and because of this stance, I am not going to be able to take advantage of the Window-Eyes hands-on training in my home town. I offered to pay $250.00 over two months to GW Micro in payment for the training. This was not mad money. I guarantee you my daughter and I could use the funds for necessities, but then, who defines necessities? The party I spoke with at GW Micro suggested I charge the whole thing on a credit card instead.


Regards,
Cheree Heppe



----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Richcreek Enterprises" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: I'm scared


I have also been watching the thread about these same issues and I haven't loaded my CD yet either. The one thing that I have been noticing is that the people that uninstalled WinEyes before loading the new version 7 have not been having any of the same problems but I could be wrong about everyone that has done this. I would appreciate if anyone knows this for sure to let
us know. Thanks, Craig B. Richcreek
----- Original Message ----- From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "GW Micro" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:04 AM
Subject: I'm scared


I received a CD of 7.0 yesterday and I am scared to death! I don't know whether or not I should install it because of all the posts about losing speech and needing to reboot. I suppose I could try it in one of my PCs and see what it's like. Should I wait until the issue of speech loss is
resolved?  I have a braille display so I would have braille if speech
failed, providing WE is still running.  What are your comments?

Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
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