Okay. Insert-C will tell me what I want to know for today, but how do I go
back a day or more?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Geoffray [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:55 PM
To: Chip Orange
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
Chip,
I suggest you give the Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar feature (insert-c) a try. It is
nothing like the native Outlook "active appointments" view. The native user
interface (even when tried to make accessible as JAWS tried) just doesn't cut it from the
keyboard. Outlook's native interface was designed for sighted users who can look at the
entire view and use the mouse to click quickly to what they want with limited clumsy
keyboard support added. This is why we didn't waste time in trying to make the native
user interface accessible (which we easily could have done). Instead we designed a very
powerful and blind friendly accessible dialog making it much more efficient for a blind
user and even adding additional functionality that Outlook doesn't provide along the way.
When you press insert-c, it will populate the listvew of appointments based on
the radio button by Day, work week, week, month, year or custom. Note, this is
already more powerful then the native Outlook user interface as you don't have
this many options to view. The listview is much more efficient to navigate as
well. The appointments which are used are based on the calendars you have
selected in Outlook. So if you want three of your personal calendars and
twenty other co-workers, you would simply select the calendars you want using
the native Outlook interface as this part is very accessible. This is the same
interface a sighted user would have to use to display the same calendars.
Depending on the version of Outlook the procedure is slightly different. Then
when you press insert-C, Window-Eyes looks to see what calendars you have
selected and shows all the appointments from these calendars. You can easily
determine which appointment came from which calendar from our dialog if you
need to know this.
I've only scratched the surface with our dialog but I hope this helps you to
better understand the real power and potential from our dialog versus the
keyboard clumsy Outlook interface. Our manual describes everything in much
more detail if you are interested in more.
Regards,
Doug
Chip Orange wrote:
Sorry again John, my bad here.
I had switched back to jaws (I have to because of problems where window
eyes doesn't read office "intellisense" so I can't do my job using it),
and so I didn't get the correct results from insert C.
I see now you want the list view (this is virtually the same, in case
you don't know this already, as the "active appointments" view available
in outlook).
So, one thing you could do is open the other person's calendar, and
change the outlook view to be either "events" or "active appointments",
which would give you this list format.
That's the only way I see for you to handle this; however, GW could now
easily implement this command as a script (and perhaps eliminate their
com add-in for outlook). They could give you the info from the
currently displayed calendar, rather than the default one for your
account, which when I tried it is what they're doing.
That is, even though I had someone else's calendar displayed, the insert
C command gave me the info from mine.
This should be easily scripted, so if you're into scripts at all you
could do this yourself right now.
hth,
Chip
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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
[email protected]
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
John,
I'm sorry, but I *still* don't understand your question then?
If you need to see someone else's calendar in outlook, you
would follow
the steps I mentioned, then use the window eyes calendar view
you
mentioned to give you the view of the calendar you wanted.
BTW, the command insert plus C gives me the error message "word
not
found" in outlook 2003.
I don't know what this command normally does, does it open the
outlook
calendar folder for you, saving you the trouble of using the
outlook
command control-2?
Chip
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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
[email protected]
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do
not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service
Commission.)
-----Original Message-----
From: Farley, John [OS-IE] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:42 AM
To: Chip Orange; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
Thanks for this Cjhip, but it did not answer my
question.
I believe you have described the "native" Outlook
facility.
I was look for a way of using the Window-Eyes calendar
view
which you
initiate with <insert>c
Thanks.
Regards, John.
John Farley
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Chip
Orange
Sent: 13 January 2009 14:36
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
Well, first, the other people in question must give you
permision
through the outlook options, the "delegates" tab.
Once they've done this, you can see their entire
calendar via
the "file
| open" menu choices.
Or, you can see their calendar indirectly via trying to
schedule a
meeting and including them. it will tell you if they're
free or not.
hth,
Chip
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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
[email protected]
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author
and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service
Commission.)
-----Original Message-----
From: Farley, John [OS-IE]
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
The facility that WE gives of an easy view of
the Outlook
calendar is
very useful and easy to use.
It would be better if I were able to look at
other people's
calendars
as well as my own. Outlook itself does allow
this.
Can it be done, and is so, how please?
Thanks in advance.
Regards, John.
John Farley
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