Hi Chip, This makes interesting thinking about. While the WE interface is much better, there are clearly some things missing in it that would be nice to have. Go to Date I already mentioned in a previous message, but if you want to find an appointment based on a text string, then you have to use the horrid Tools, Advanced Find dialogue in Outlook. This would be another nice to have in the WE interface, a method to find an appointment by a string of text.
All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday 13 January 2009 21:28 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar You're absolutely right Doug; however, it's just having to learn a different interface. In the list interface of outlook, it's just more arrowing up/down in your list of appointments. When you're searching for when exactly that meeting was scheduled, this sometimes can be faster and easier. In any case, it just takes some getting used to in selecting your time frame, and using next/previous, if you're used to arrowing up and down a master list, so I see her confusion, and your point that a more complex interface can do more powerful things. Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission [email protected] (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Geoffray [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:16 PM > To: Sandra Fouts > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar > > Sandra, > > Maybe I'm missing something but don't you see the Previous and Next > buttons. If you have the Day radio button selected then clicking > previous will go back one day. Click it again and you go back two > days. If you have week selected then previous goes to the previous > week, a second click goes back two weeks and on and on. Or you can > select the Custom radio button, give it the start and end > date and get > any range you can possibly think of. All this is explained > in section > 23.1 of the Window-Eyes manual but you can easily move forward or > backward by whatever timespan you are currently looking at. > > Regards, > Doug > > Sandra Fouts wrote: > > Okay. Insert-C will tell me what I want to know for > today, but how do I go back a day or more? > > > > > > Sandra Fouts > > Phone Counselor > > Arkansas Attorney General's Office > > 323 Center Street, Ste 200 > > Little Rock, AR > > 501-371-2303 > > Fax 501-682-8118 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Doug Geoffray [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:55 PM > > To: Chip Orange > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar > > > > Chip, > > > > I suggest you give the Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar feature > (insert-c) a try. It is nothing like the native Outlook > "active appointments" view. The native user interface (even > when tried to make accessible as JAWS tried) just doesn't cut > it from the keyboard. Outlook's native interface was > designed for sighted users who can look at the entire view > and use the mouse to click quickly to what they want with > limited clumsy keyboard support added. This is why we didn't > waste time in trying to make the native user interface > accessible (which we easily could have done). Instead we > designed a very powerful and blind friendly accessible dialog > making it much more efficient for a blind user and even > adding additional functionality that Outlook doesn't provide > along the way. > > > > When you press insert-c, it will populate the listvew of > appointments based on the radio button by Day, work week, > week, month, year or custom. Note, this is already more > powerful then the native Outlook user interface as you don't > have this many options to view. The listview is much more > efficient to navigate as well. The appointments which are > used are based on the calendars you have selected in Outlook. > So if you want three of your personal calendars and twenty > other co-workers, you would simply select the calendars you > want using the native Outlook interface as this part is very > accessible. This is the same interface a sighted user would > have to use to display the same calendars. Depending on the > version of Outlook the procedure is slightly different. Then > when you press insert-C, Window-Eyes looks to see what > calendars you have selected and shows all the appointments > from these calendars. You can easily determine which > appointment came from which calendar from our dialog if you > need to know this. > > > > I've only scratched the surface with our dialog but I hope > this helps you to better understand the real power and > potential from our dialog versus the keyboard clumsy Outlook > interface. Our manual describes everything in much more > detail if you are interested in more. > > > > Regards, > > Doug > > > > Chip Orange wrote: > > > > Sorry again John, my bad here. > > > > I had switched back to jaws (I have to because of > problems where window > > eyes doesn't read office "intellisense" so I can't > do my job using it), > > and so I didn't get the correct results from insert C. > > > > I see now you want the list view (this is virtually > the same, in case > > you don't know this already, as the "active > appointments" view available > > in outlook). > > > > So, one thing you could do is open the other > person's calendar, and > > change the outlook view to be either "events" or > "active appointments", > > which would give you this list format. > > > > That's the only way I see for you to handle this; > however, GW could now > > easily implement this command as a script (and > perhaps eliminate their > > com add-in for outlook). They could give you the > info from the > > currently displayed calendar, rather than the > default one for your > > account, which when I tried it is what they're doing. > > > > That is, even though I had someone else's calendar > displayed, the insert > > C command gave me the info from mine. > > > > This should be easily scripted, so if you're into > scripts at all you > > could do this yourself right now. > > > > hth, > > > > Chip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Chip Orange > > Database Administrator > > Florida Public Service Commission > > > > [email protected] > > (850) 413-6314 > > > > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the > author and do not > > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public > Service Commission.) > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:22 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar > > > > John, > > > > I'm sorry, but I *still* don't understand > your question then? > > > > If you need to see someone else's calendar > in outlook, you > > would follow > > the steps I mentioned, then use the window > eyes calendar view you > > mentioned to give you the view of the > calendar you wanted. > > > > BTW, the command insert plus C gives me the > error message "word not > > found" in outlook 2003. > > > > I don't know what this command normally > does, does it open the outlook > > calendar folder for you, saving you the > trouble of using the outlook > > command control-2? > > > > Chip > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Chip Orange > > Database Administrator > > Florida Public Service Commission > > > > [email protected] > > (850) 413-6314 > > > > (Any opinions expressed are solely those > of the author and do not > > necessarily reflect those of the Florida > Public Service Commission.) > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Farley, John [OS-IE] > [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:42 AM > > To: Chip Orange; [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar > > > > Thanks for this Cjhip, but it did > not answer my question. > > > > I believe you have described the > "native" Outlook facility. > > > > I was look for a way of using the > Window-Eyes calendar view > > > > > > which you > > > > > > initiate with <insert>c > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, John. > > > > John Farley > > > ************************************************************** > > ********* > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chip > > Orange > > Sent: 13 January 2009 14:36 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar > > > > Well, first, the other people in > question must give you permision > > through the outlook options, the > "delegates" tab. > > > > Once they've done this, you can see > their entire calendar via > > the "file > > | open" menu choices. > > > > Or, you can see their calendar > indirectly via trying to schedule a > > meeting and including them. it > will tell you if they're > > > > > > free or not. > > > > > > hth, > > > > Chip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Chip Orange > > Database Administrator > > Florida Public Service Commission > > > > [email protected] > > (850) 413-6314 > > > > (Any opinions expressed are solely > those of the author and do not > > necessarily reflect those of the > Florida Public Service Commission.) > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Farley, John [OS-IE] > [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, > 2009 6:25 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Window-Eyes > Outlook Calendar > > > > The facility that WE gives > of an easy view of the Outlook > > > > > > calendar is > > > > > > very useful and easy to use. > > > > It would be better if I > were able to look at other people's > > > > > > calendars > > > > > > as well as my own. 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