Yes, I found the WE outlook calendar interface did show my recurring
appointments accurately, while the list view in outlook does not
(although the other views in outlook's calendar to show repeating
appointments, so go figure).

Chip






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Chip Orange
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Geoffray [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:41 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]; Chip Orange; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
> 
> John,
> 
> I get all repeating appointments.  In fact, this is how I 
> demonstrate it to get many appointments for the year.  When I 
> go and edit or delete a repeating appointment I'm asked if I 
> want the original or the current one only.
> 
> Regards,
> Doug
> 
> John Farley wrote: 
> 
>       Hi Steve,
>       
>       There is another thing that the WE interface does not 
> handle correctly.
>       
>       If I put on a recurring appointment of 5 days, from 
> 08:30 to 17:00 for
>       vacation then the native outlook calendar shows it 
> correctly. The WE
>       interface only shows the first day.
>       
>       Cheers.
>        
>       
>       Regards, John
>       
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>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Steve Nutt [mailto:[email protected]] 
>       Sent: 24 January 2009 11:30
>       To: 'Chip Orange'; [email protected]
>       Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
>       
>       Hi Chip,
>       
>       This makes interesting thinking about.  While the WE 
> interface is much
>       better, there are clearly some things missing in it 
> that would be nice to
>       have.  Go to Date I already mentioned in a previous 
> message, but if you want
>       to find an appointment based on a text string, then you 
> have to use the
>       horrid Tools, Advanced Find dialogue in Outlook.  This 
> would be another nice
>       to have in the WE interface, a method to find an 
> appointment by a string of
>       text.
>       
>       All the best
>       
>       Steve
>       
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] 
>       Sent: Tuesday 13 January 2009 21:28
>       To: [email protected]
>       Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
>       
>       You're absolutely right Doug; however, it's just having 
> to learn a
>       different interface.
>       
>       In the list interface of outlook, it's just more 
> arrowing up/down in
>       your list of appointments.  When you're searching for 
> when exactly that
>       meeting was scheduled, this sometimes can be faster and 
> easier.  In any
>       case, it just takes some getting used to in selecting 
> your time frame,
>       and using next/previous, if you're used to arrowing up 
> and down a master
>       list, so I see her confusion, and your point that a more complex
>       interface can do more powerful things.
>       
>       Chip
>       
>       
>       
>       
>       
>       ------------------------------
>       
>       Chip Orange
>       Database Administrator
>       Florida Public Service Commission
>       
>       [email protected]
>       (850) 413-6314
>       
>        (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author 
> and do not
>       necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service 
> Commission.)
>        
>       
>         
> 
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: Doug Geoffray [mailto:[email protected]] 
>               Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:16 PM
>               To: Sandra Fouts
>               Cc: [email protected]
>               Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
>               
>               Sandra,
>               
>               Maybe I'm missing something but don't you see 
> the Previous and Next 
>               buttons.  If you have the Day radio button 
> selected then clicking 
>               previous will go back one day.  Click it again 
> and you go back two 
>               days.  If you have week selected then previous 
> goes to the previous 
>               week, a second click goes back two weeks and on 
> and on.  Or you can 
>               select the Custom radio button, give it the 
> start and end 
>               date and get 
>               any range you can possibly think of.  All this 
> is explained 
>               in section 
>               23.1 of the Window-Eyes manual but you can 
> easily move forward or 
>               backward by whatever timespan you are currently 
> looking at.
>               
>               Regards,
>               Doug
>               
>               Sandra Fouts wrote:
>                   
> 
>                       Okay.  Insert-C will tell me what I 
> want to know  for 
>                             
> 
>               today, but how do I go back a day or more?
>                   
> 
>                       
>                       Sandra Fouts
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>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From: Doug Geoffray 
> [mailto:[email protected]]
>                       Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:55 PM
>                       To: Chip Orange
>                       Cc: [email protected]
>                       Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
>                       
>                       Chip,
>                       
>                       I suggest you give the Window-Eyes 
> Outlook Calendar feature 
>                             
> 
>               (insert-c) a try.  It is nothing like the 
> native Outlook 
>               "active appointments" view.  The native user 
> interface (even 
>               when tried to make accessible as JAWS tried) 
> just doesn't cut 
>               it from the keyboard.  Outlook's native interface was 
>               designed for sighted users who can look at the 
> entire view 
>               and use the mouse to click quickly to what they 
> want with 
>               limited clumsy keyboard support added.  This is 
> why we didn't 
>               waste time in trying to make the native user interface 
>               accessible (which we easily could have done).  
> Instead we 
>               designed a very powerful and blind friendly 
> accessible dialog 
>               making it much more efficient for a blind user and even 
>               adding additional functionality that Outlook 
> doesn't provide 
>               along the way.
>                   
> 
>                       When you press insert-c, it will 
> populate the listvew of 
>                             
> 
>               appointments based on the radio button by Day, 
> work week, 
>               week, month, year or custom.  Note, this is 
> already more 
>               powerful then the native Outlook user interface 
> as you don't 
>               have this many options to view.  The listview 
> is much more 
>               efficient to navigate as well.  The 
> appointments which are 
>               used are based on the calendars you have 
> selected in Outlook. 
>                So if you want three of your personal 
> calendars and twenty 
>               other co-workers, you would simply select the 
> calendars you 
>               want using the native Outlook interface as this 
> part is very 
>               accessible.  This is the same interface a 
> sighted user would 
>               have to use to display the same calendars.  
> Depending on the 
>               version of Outlook the procedure is slightly 
> different.  Then 
>               when you press insert-C, Window-Eyes looks to see what 
>               calendars you have selected and shows all the 
> appointments 
>               from these calendars.  You can easily determine which 
>               appointment came from which calendar from our 
> dialog if you 
>               need to know this.
>                   
> 
>                       I've only scratched the surface with 
> our dialog but I hope 
>                             
> 
>               this helps you to better understand the real power and 
>               potential from our dialog versus the keyboard 
> clumsy Outlook 
>               interface.  Our manual describes everything in 
> much more 
>               detail if you are interested in more.
>                   
> 
>                       Regards,
>                       Doug
>                       
>                       Chip Orange wrote:
>                       
>                               Sorry again John, my bad here.
>                       
>                               I had switched back to jaws (I 
> have to because of 
>                             
> 
>               problems where window
>                   
> 
>                               eyes doesn't read office 
> "intellisense" so I can't 
>                             
> 
>               do my job using it),
>                   
> 
>                               and so I didn't get the correct 
> results from insert C.
>                       
>                               I see now you want the list 
> view (this is virtually 
>                             
> 
>               the same, in case
>                   
> 
>                               you don't know this already, as 
> the "active 
>                             
> 
>               appointments" view available
>                   
> 
>                               in outlook).
>                       
>                               So, one thing you could do is 
> open the other 
>                             
> 
>               person's calendar, and
>                   
> 
>                               change the outlook view to be 
> either "events" or 
>                             
> 
>               "active appointments",
>                   
> 
>                               which would give you this list format.
>                       
>                               That's the only way I see for 
> you to handle this; 
>                             
> 
>               however, GW could now
>                   
> 
>                               easily implement this command 
> as a script (and 
>                             
> 
>               perhaps eliminate their
>                   
> 
>                               com add-in for outlook).  They 
> could give you the 
>                             
> 
>               info from the
>                   
> 
>                               currently displayed calendar, 
> rather than the 
>                             
> 
>               default one for your
>                   
> 
>                               account, which when I tried it 
> is what they're doing.
>                       
>                               That is, even though I had 
> someone else's calendar 
>                             
> 
>               displayed, the insert
>                   
> 
>                               C command gave me the info from mine.
>                       
>                               This should be easily scripted, 
> so if you're into 
>                             
> 
>               scripts at all you
>                   
> 
>                               could do this yourself right now.
>                       
>                               hth,
>                       
>                               Chip
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                               ------------------------------
>                       
>                               Chip Orange
>                               Database Administrator
>                               Florida Public Service Commission
>                       
>                               [email protected]
>                               (850) 413-6314
>                       
>                                (Any opinions expressed are 
> solely those of the 
>                             
> 
>               author and do not
>                   
> 
>                               necessarily reflect those of 
> the Florida Public 
>                             
> 
>               Service Commission.)
>                   
> 
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                                       -----Original Message-----
>                                       From: Chip Orange 
> [mailto:[email protected]]
>                                       Sent: Tuesday, January 
> 13, 2009 2:22 PM
>                                       To: [email protected]
>                                       Subject: RE: 
> Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
>                       
>                                       John,
>                       
>                                       I'm sorry, but I 
> *still* don't understand 
>                             
> 
>               your question then?
>                   
> 
>                                       If you need to see 
> someone else's calendar 
>                             
> 
>               in outlook, you
>                   
> 
>                                       would follow
>                                       the steps I mentioned, 
> then use the window 
>                             
> 
>               eyes calendar view you
>                   
> 
>                                       mentioned to give you 
> the view of the 
>                             
> 
>               calendar you wanted.
>                   
> 
>                                       BTW, the command insert 
> plus C gives me the 
>                             
> 
>               error message "word not
>                   
> 
>                                       found" in outlook 2003.
>                       
>                                       I don't know what this 
> command normally 
>                             
> 
>               does, does it open the outlook
>                   
> 
>                                       calendar folder for 
> you, saving you the 
>                             
> 
>               trouble of using the outlook
>                   
> 
>                                       command control-2?
>                       
>                                       Chip
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                                       ------------------------------
>                       
>                                       Chip Orange
>                                       Database Administrator
>                                       Florida Public Service 
> Commission
>                       
>                                       [email protected]
>                                       (850) 413-6314
>                       
>                                        (Any opinions 
> expressed are solely those 
>                             
> 
>               of the author and do not
>                   
> 
>                                       necessarily reflect 
> those of the Florida 
>                             
> 
>               Public Service Commission.)
>                   
> 
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                                               -----Original 
> Message-----
>                                               From: Farley, 
> John [OS-IE] 
>                             
> 
>               [mailto:[email protected]]
>                   
> 
>                                               Sent: Tuesday, 
> January 13, 2009 9:42 AM
>                                               To: Chip 
> Orange; [email protected]
>                                               Subject: RE: 
> Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
>                       
>                                               Thanks for this 
> Cjhip, but it did 
>                             
> 
>               not answer my question.
>                   
> 
>                                               I believe you 
> have described the 
>                             
> 
>               "native" Outlook facility.
>                   
> 
>                                               I was look for 
> a way of using the 
>                             
> 
>               Window-Eyes calendar view
>                   
> 
>                       
>                                       which you
>                       
>                       
>                                               initiate with <insert>c
>                       
>                                               Thanks.
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                                               Regards, John.
>                       
>                                               John Farley
>                                               
>                             
> 
>               
> **************************************************************
>                   
> 
>                                               *********
>                                               -----Original 
> Message-----
>                                               From: [email protected] 
>                             
> 
>               [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chip
>                   
> 
>                                               Orange
>                                               Sent: 13 
> January 2009 14:36
>                                               To: [email protected]
>                                               Subject: RE: 
> Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar
>                       
>                                               Well, first, 
> the other people in 
>                             
> 
>               question must give you permision
>                   
> 
>                                               through the 
> outlook options, the 
>                             
> 
>               "delegates" tab.
>                   
> 
>                                               Once they've 
> done this, you can see 
>                             
> 
>               their entire calendar via
>                   
> 
>                                               the "file
>                                               | open" menu choices.
>                       
>                                               Or, you can see 
> their calendar 
>                             
> 
>               indirectly via trying to schedule a
>                   
> 
>                                               meeting and 
> including them.  it 
>                             
> 
>               will tell you if they're
>                   
> 
>                       
>                                       free or not.
>                       
>                       
>                                               hth,
>                       
>                                               Chip
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                                               
> ------------------------------
>                       
>                                               Chip Orange
>                                               Database Administrator
>                                               Florida Public 
> Service Commission
>                       
>                                               
> [email protected]
>                                               (850) 413-6314
>                       
>                                                (Any opinions 
> expressed are solely 
>                             
> 
>               those of the author and do not
>                   
> 
>                                               necessarily 
> reflect those of the 
>                             
> 
>               Florida Public Service Commission.)
>                   
> 
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                                                       
> -----Original Message-----
>                                                       From: 
> Farley, John [OS-IE] 
>                             
> 
>               [mailto:[email protected]]
>                   
> 
>                                                       Sent: 
> Tuesday, January 13, 
>                             
> 
>               2009 6:25 AM
>                   
> 
>                                                       To: 
> [email protected]
>                                                       
> Subject: Window-Eyes 
>                             
> 
>               Outlook Calendar
>                   
> 
>                                                       The 
> facility that WE gives 
>                             
> 
>               of an easy view of the Outlook
>                   
> 
>                       
>                                               calendar is
>                       
>                       
>                                                       very 
> useful and easy to use.
>                       
>                                                       It 
> would be better if I 
>                             
> 
>               were able to look at other people's
>                   
> 
>                       
>                                               calendars
>                       
>                       
>                                                       as well 
> as my own. Outlook 
>                             
> 
>               itself does allow this.
>                   
> 
>                                                       Can it 
> be done, and is so, 
>                             
> 
>               how please?
>                   
> 
>                                                       Thanks 
> in advance.
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                                                       Regards, John.
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