Thanks. I think I did figure out something.
Sandra Fouts Phone Counselor Arkansas Attorney General's Office 323 Center Street, Ste 200 Little Rock, AR 501-371-2303 Fax 501-682-8118 -----Original Message----- From: Doug Geoffray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:14 AM To: Sandra Fouts Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar Sandra, My best advise is use what works best for you. Regards, Doug Sandra Fouts wrote: Hi Doug. I went back and read the manual on the outlook calendar. No wonder I haven't messed with it! It's more of pain than I normally do! And it didn't give anymore information. Example: To look at our attendance calendar, I alt-F for file menu, arrow down to open, arrow right once, arrow down to attendance calendar and hit enter. Then I can tab through what is listed on the calendar for that day. Or if I want to put myself on the calendar, I arrow up or down to the correct time, typen what I need to type in, and hit enter. The only problem I'm running into is: if some type in their name, but they type in their time in the location bar. It may just say, Sandra sick leave. But it won't say if all day, or after noon or morning, etc. Does this make sense? Most people don't put their time in the location bar but some of them do. Thanks for any suggestions on this. Sandra Fouts Phone Counselor Arkansas Attorney General's Office 323 Center Street, Ste 200 Little Rock, AR 501-371-2303 Fax 501-682-8118 -----Original Message----- From: Doug Geoffray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:16 PM To: Sandra Fouts Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar Sandra, Maybe I'm missing something but don't you see the Previous and Next buttons. If you have the Day radio button selected then clicking previous will go back one day. Click it again and you go back two days. If you have week selected then previous goes to the previous week, a second click goes back two weeks and on and on. Or you can select the Custom radio button, give it the start and end date and get any range you can possibly think of. All this is explained in section 23.1 of the Window-Eyes manual but you can easily move forward or backward by whatever timespan you are currently looking at. Regards, Doug Sandra Fouts wrote: Okay. Insert-C will tell me what I want to know for today, but how do I go back a day or more? Sandra Fouts Phone Counselor Arkansas Attorney General's Office 323 Center Street, Ste 200 Little Rock, AR 501-371-2303 Fax 501-682-8118 -----Original Message----- From: Doug Geoffray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:55 PM To: Chip Orange Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar Chip, I suggest you give the Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar feature (insert-c) a try. It is nothing like the native Outlook "active appointments" view. The native user interface (even when tried to make accessible as JAWS tried) just doesn't cut it from the keyboard. Outlook's native interface was designed for sighted users who can look at the entire view and use the mouse to click quickly to what they want with limited clumsy keyboard support added. This is why we didn't waste time in trying to make the native user interface accessible (which we easily could have done). Instead we designed a very powerful and blind friendly accessible dialog making it much more efficient for a blind user and even adding additional functionality that Outlook doesn't provide along the way. When you press insert-c, it will populate the listvew of appointments based on the radio button by Day, work week, week, month, year or custom. Note, this is already more powerful then the native Outlook user interface as you don't have this many options to view. The listview is much more efficient to navigate as well. The appointments which are used are based on the calendars you have selected in Outlook. So if you want three of your personal calendars and twenty other co-workers, you would simply select the calendars you want using the native Outlook interface as this part is very accessible. This is the same interface a sighted user would have to use to display the same calendars. Depending on the version of Outlook the procedure is slightly different. Then when you press insert-C, Window-Eyes looks to see what calendars you have selected and shows all the appointments from these calendars. You can easily determine which appointment came from which calendar from o ur dialog if you need to know this. I've only scratched the surface with our dialog but I hope this helps you to better understand the real power and potential from our dialog versus the keyboard clumsy Outlook interface. Our manual describes everything in much more detail if you are interested in more. Regards, Doug Chip Orange wrote: Sorry again John, my bad here. I had switched back to jaws (I have to because of problems where window eyes doesn't read office "intellisense" so I can't do my job using it), and so I didn't get the correct results from insert C. I see now you want the list view (this is virtually the same, in case you don't know this already, as the "active appointments" view available in outlook). So, one thing you could do is open the other person's calendar, and change the outlook view to be either "events" or "active appointments", which would give you this list format. That's the only way I see for you to handle this; however, GW could now easily implement this command as a script (and perhaps eliminate their com add-in for outlook). They could give you the info from the currently displayed calendar, rather than the default one for your account, which when I tried it is what they're doing. That is, even though I had someone else's calendar displayed, the insert C command gave me the info from mine. This should be easily scripted, so if you're into scripts at all you could do this yourself right now. hth, Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission [email protected] (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) -----Original Message----- From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar John, I'm sorry, but I *still* don't understand your question then? If you need to see someone else's calendar in outlook, you would follow the steps I mentioned, then use the window eyes calendar view you mentioned to give you the view of the calendar you wanted. BTW, the command insert plus C gives me the error message "word not found" in outlook 2003. I don't know what this command normally does, does it open the outlook calendar folder for you, saving you the trouble of using the outlook command control-2? Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission [email protected] (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) -----Original Message----- From: Farley, John [OS-IE] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:42 AM To: Chip Orange; [email protected] Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar Thanks for this Cjhip, but it did not answer my question. I believe you have described the " <mailto:inoutlook2003.Idon'tknowwhatthiscommandnormallydoes,doesitopentheoutlookcalendarfolderforyou,savingyouthetroubleofusingtheoutlookcommandcontrol-2?chip------------------------------chiporangedatabaseadministratorfloridapublicservicecommissionchip.ora...@psc.state.fl.us(850)413-6314(AnyopinionsexpressedaresolelythoseoftheauthoranddonotnecessarilyreflectthoseoftheFloridaPublicServiceCommission.)-----OriginalMessage-----From:Farley,John[OS-IE][mailto:[email protected]]sent:Tuesday,January13,20099:42AMTo:ChipOrange;[email protected]:RE:Window-EyesOutlookCalendarThanksforthisCjhip,butitdidnotanswermyquestion.Ibelieveyouhavedescribedthe> native" Outlook facility. I was look for a way of using the Window-Eyes calendar view which you initiate with <insert>c Thanks. Regards, John. John Farley ************************************************************** ********* -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chip Orange Sent: 13 January 2009 14:36 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar Well, first, the other people in question must give you permision through the outlook options, the "delegates" tab. Once they've done this, you can see their entire calendar via the "file | open" menu choices. Or, you can see their calendar indirectly via trying to schedule a meeting and including them. it will tell you if they're free or not. hth, Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission [email protected] (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) -----Original Message----- From: Farley, John [OS-IE] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Window-Eyes Outlook Calendar The facility that WE gives of an easy view of the Outlook calendar is very useful and easy to use. It would be better if I were able to look at other people's calendars as well as my own. Outlook itself does allow this. Can it be done, and is so, how please? Thanks in advance. Regards, John. John Farley SAIC Limited is a private limited company registered in England and Wales. 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