Chip, I bet the Netbook would cope with it pretty easily. Send me a copy and I'll let you know <Smile>.
All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday 28 January 2009 16:16 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: W.E. and Netbook PC's Hi Eric, Just the conclusions I also reached, although I'm not sure about running a GPS navigation package on a netbook. I've written one for the blind, but never distributed it, and they actually use a lot of processor if you do routing functionality, and constantly report current position, near-by points of interest and intersections, and other functions which require constant monitoring of the gps and constant lookup of data in the database. If you're talking about a system that only reports your position when you press a key, yes, that should work ok. thanks. Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission [email protected] (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) > -----Original Message----- > From: erik burggraaf [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:08 AM > To: Chip Orange > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: W.E. and Netbook PC's > > Ideally, the more resources you have to work with, the > better, how-so- > ever... > > I ran window-eyes with dektalk speech more ore less happily on a > toshiba tecra 650 mhz machine with 128 mb ram and 20 gb 4200 > rpm hard > drive. I won't say it was totally comfortable, but it was > definitely > workable considdering that I had nothing else. > > Window-eyes 7 with dektalk speech should run comfortably on a > netbook > as long as you don't stack scripts on it in droves, or try > forcing it > to eloquence or digital speech. Speech recognition would be > too much > on top of window-eyes. That's where the portability vs > functionality > takes a serious hit. > > The question is, what do you want to do? If you want to check your > email and browse the web on a bus or in the car, or if you > want to use > one of these computer based gps systems, or if you want a quick and > cheep notetaking machine, then netbooks are for you. Well-built > netbooks get up to 8 hours battery life. They're much > lighter to cary > than laptops. They're cheep, so if you really need this > functionality, you can probably justify the expense of a good > quality > laptop or desktop system for home use, and a netbook for the road. > They are usefull as all get out for what they are, but I > wouldn't sell > one as a desktop replacement for sure. > > Best, > > > erik burggraaf > > Certified Technician > Assistive Computing LTD Support and training > Sales department: 888-828-2445 > Support and Training: 888-255-5194 > Email: [email protected] > > Website coming soon > > > > On 27-Jan-09, at 10:03 AM, Chip Orange wrote: > > > Raul, > > > > It helps some, but I thought they were say half the price > of a laptop? > > If that's the case, the one article I had read said they > achieved this > > price cut by giving you components that were slower, hotter, and a > > screen that was smaller, dimmer, and lower resolution. > > > > They implied, in the review article that did some testing, that > > slowness > > (of everything; bus speed, hard drive, and processor/memory, and a > > processor without L2 cache), made for an experience where > say, loading > > MS Word was grindingly slow, but use of the web, where the > server at > > the > > other end, and the speed of your internet connection were your > > bottlenecks, would seem only slightly slower. > > > > So, I'm looking for what even defines a "netbook", since the article > > said it was a slower, but cheaper, notebook computer. > > > > BTW, I talked to someone on the sales staff of GW, and he said the > > Oqo, > > what you might call a netbook, although an expensive one, > was still > > too > > slow to run window eyes with synthetic speech, and a processor > > intensive > > application like speech recognition. In his opinion, you needed a > > full > > high end laptop to run it all, and that's been my > experience with a > > high > > end Dell laptop with a 2.2 ghz processor, loads of RAM and L2 cache, > > that it bearly keeps up with the demand placed on it by > window eyes > > and > > synthetic speech (and windows). I've seen times when response time > > isn't what you would call acceptible, and when I've removed window > > eyes > > and synthetic speech and had a sighted person try the same things, > > it's > > been ok. This is why I respected his analysis that a > screen reader > > and > > synthetic speech can place quite a load on a system themselves. > > > > thanks. > > > > Chip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Chip Orange > > Database Administrator > > Florida Public Service Commission > > > > [email protected] > > (850) 413-6314 > > > > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not > > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Raul A. Gallegos [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:31 PM > >> To: GW Info Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: W.E. and Netbook PC's > >> > >> Chip. This is not my experience at all, and I have reviewed 4 > >> different > >> netbooks. All in all, they all for the most part have; > >> > >> * Atom 1.6 ghz processor > >> * 1 gb of ram > >> * 120 or 160 gb of hard drive space > >> * 3 or 6 cell battery > >> * built-in wireless > >> * onboard lan > >> * onboard camera > >> * Windows xp-home > >> > >> Some have the added bluetooth support, a modem, and/or a few other > >> extras. In any case, since the hardware is about the same, > >> what it comes > >> down to is how you feel about its keyboard, its management of the > >> battery, its shape, size, and feel. While opening Word, Excel, or > >> Powerpoint, they work fine. While using Internet Explorer and/or > >> Firefox, they work fine. Not as fast and screeming as a > >> desktop pc with > >> far more power, but not as bad as one might think. > >> > >> Hope this helps. > >> > >> Chip Orange wrote the following on 1/26/2009 2:56 PM: > >>> Hi Steve, > >>> > >>> If you're doing it because of the cost, then you may want > >> to know that > >>> system access is offering a "netbook" version of their > >> screen reader for > >>> $150. I don't know what's cut out to restrict it to netbooks. > >>> > >>> Well, my impression of these devices is that their > >> processing capability > >>> is very limited and slow; if you're using it for synthetic > >> speech, and > >>> running a screen reader, and trying to do something like > >> run internet > >>> explorer or ms word, I'd guess you'd better have some > real patience. > >>> I'm not an owner of one, but they have to get the cost down > >> somehow, and > >>> I thought processor speed was one of the ways. > >>> > >>> My preference, if money is not the only issue, would be > to find the > >>> screen size and resolution that's the cheapest for a given > >> line of high > >>> performing laptops. That's usually been the 14 inch ones > >> lately, but it > >>> could be the 12 inch ones by now. > >>> > >>> Then you shouldn't have any worries in adding a > full-fledged screen > >>> reader like window eyes, with synthetic speech. > >>> > >>> Chip > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Chip Orange > >>> Database Administrator > >>> Florida Public Service Commission > >>> > >>> [email protected] > >>> (850) 413-6314 > >>> > >>> (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not > >>> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service > Commission.) > >>> > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Steve "The Jazz Man" Bauer [mailto:[email protected]] > >>>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:56 PM > >>>> To: gw-info list > >>>> Subject: W.E. and Netbook PC's > >>>> > >>>> I'm looking at possibly purchasing one of these new small Netbook > >>>> computers. > >>>> > >>>> Samsung MC10 appears to be top on my list at this point. > >>>> > >>>> Does W.E. run successfully on these small units? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks. > >>>> > >>>> Steve > >>>> > >>>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original > >>>> sender only. 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