-----Original Message-----
From: David [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:54 PM
To: Chip Orange; [email protected]
Subject: Re: FW: 7.1 stability problems
Well, here I am running XP Pro, with 30 scripts. But I used
most of the
scripts under WE7.01, with little trouble. Things like the
loss of speech,
when moving too fast around, is something that came up with
7.1beta. Don't
know, if it is in the WE core itself, or if it could be some kind of
conflict, or misbehavior, in some script.
Dectalk, might be a good alternative, for those who have it.
From WE7.0,
though, the Dectalk have been removed from (at least some)
Non-English
versions of WE. THis means, those of us who are forced to use
a WE version,
where Dectalk is no longer included, have no other choice,
but using the
Eloquence synth. Well, that is, if we don't happen to have a
SAPI voice, or
some kind of external/hardware synthesizer. Instability is
werisome. But if
it gets to the point, where you will have to run an older synth, i.e
Dectalk, I do wonder, why include Eloquence at all? Besides,
I have been
using other screenreaders with Eloquence dedicaed, and little
or no trouble.
Not sure, at the bottom of it all, why Eloquence would be
that much more
instable than Dectalk, or other synths, for that matter.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chip Orange" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: FW: 7.1 stability problems
If people don't mind me asking, could everyone reading this thread
respond with whether you're having a lot of stability
problems, your OS,
and how many scripts you're running? I've begun to think it's related
to the number of scripts, or at least more likely for those running a
lot.
I am seeing stability issues, for both xp and vista, and I'm
running 40
or more scripts.
I also see far fewer issues when I use dec-talk access, as opposed to
when I use eloquence.
Chip
------------------------------
Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
[email protected]
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Richcreek Enterprises [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:59 PM
> To: Edward; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: FW: 7.1 stability problems
>
> Not having all of those problems with WinEyes 7.1 here. Using
> XP Home SP3,
> IE 6 Best, Craig B. Richcreek
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edward" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:02 PM
> Subject: FW: FW: 7.1 stability problems
>
>
> >I found most bugs corrected in 7.1 but w e is still no
where near as
> > responsive as jaws is. Also, if you move to quick with w
> e, it ends up
> > crashing the program you are working in like windows
> explorer or internet
> > explorer.
> >
> > Edward
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pastor Gil Pries [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 3:44 PM
> > To: Bob Quinn; [email protected]; Chris Belle
> > Subject: Re: FW: 7.1 stability problems
> >
> > Hi,
> > I found all my problems with Internet Explorer 7 crashing
> disappeared when
> > I
> > updated to Internet Explorer 8.
> > I have had no problems with brouse mode or crashing.
> > Tried Firefox 3.5 and had brouse mode issues going to my
> home page when I
> > opened up Firefox.
> > Pastor Gil
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Quinn" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>; "Chris Belle" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: FW: 7.1 stability problems
> >
> >
> >> OOps I posted this earlier, but did reply to sender not to
> all sorry
> >> about
> >
> >> that. I have no problems with 7.1 it seems as good as
the previous
> >> versions. I
> >> have been using WE on my home computers since version 4,
> and have found
> >> That
> >> home made set files always need to be redone whenever a
> major upgrade
> >> comes
> >> out whether it be WE or the program they were made for.
I gave up
> >> complicated sets, and use the mouse a lot. Updating home
> made sets takes
> >> a
> >> lot of time, and work. I still make them, but keep them
to the bare
> >> necessities for simpler updating.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Chris Belle" <[email protected]>
> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:23 PM
> >> Subject: RE: FW: 7.1 stability problems
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Chip?
> >>>
> >>> I did do exactly what you suggested, and got no where.
> >>>
> >>> I have since been able to duplicate this problem with a
competent
> >>> technician colleague who I work with regularly, this
> morning as a matter
> >>> of fact.
> >>>
> >>> Sure enough, setfiles that work well for soundforge 7b
> with we 6.1 will
> >>> break badly under we7 and not load correctly, hyperactive window
> >>> cordinates will be messed up, and associations for
> loading will be
> >>> messed
> >
> >>> up.
> >>>
> >>> I was told that this was probably something specific to
> my machine.
> >>>
> >>> Now I have good evidence that it is not so and that
> window-eyes is at
> >>> fault.
> >>>
> >>> At 11:18 AM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
> >>>>why don't you send the set files to support, with a
> detailed explanation
> >>>>of how things work under 6.1, and a detailed explanation
> of what it
> >>>>takes to see they're broken under 7.1?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>Chip Orange
> >>>>Database Administrator
> >>>>Florida Public Service Commission
> >>>>
> >>>>[email protected]
> >>>>(850) 413-6314
> >>>>
> >>>> (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author
> and do not
> >>>>necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service
> Commission.)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>>> > From: Chris Belle [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>>> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:10 AM
> >>>> > To: [email protected]
> >>>> > Subject: Re: FW: 7.1 stability problems
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I've gotten the same here on several ocasions.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > After abandoning we 7.0 in frustration because of a
failure to
> >>>> > communicate to gwmicro my issues for various reasons I
> won't go in to
> >>>> > here, I decided to give we7.1 a test drive.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > To their credit, one issue that's seems to have been
> resolved is the
> >>>> > drag and drop issue, it now seems to be working.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > This was broken in the we7 release.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > My test drive of it with levelator with we7.1 seems to
> work now.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > One very serious problem I am having with we since the
> whole we7
> >>>> > cycle began is the issue of setfiles being broken between
> >>>> > we6.1 and we7.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I have some very extensive and very well written
> soundforge setfiles
> >>>> > written by my good friend Tom Kingston whom I beta tested for
> >>>> > last year.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > These setfiles add a lot of functionallity and usability to
> >>>> > soundforge 8, and I modifyed them to work with my
> prefered soundforge
> >>>> > 7 installation.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > When I upgraded to we7 in any of it's incarnations,
> these setfiles
> >>>> > neither load correctly, and window cordinates are
> messed up, and all
> >>>> > kinds of strange things happen.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I've had some very brief conversation with gwmicro
> over this but have
> >>>> > never gotten this satisfactorily addressed.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > There is no change with we7.1, the setfiles are still
> very broken.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The basic structure of the setfiles is this, there are
> two loader
> >>>> > sets which are associated with different modules in
> soundforge, and
> >>>> > hyperactive windows will trigger and load the
> appropriate setfile as
> >>>> > needed for any given window, so when you want to
> create a new setfile
> >>>> > for a new part of the forge, you just make a new
> setfile and load it
> >>>> > with a hyperactive window from one of the loader sets.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Pretty slick, kind of what I used to do with the ram
> locations with
> >>>> > vocal-eyes and branching remember when we only had 10
> hyperactive
> >>>> > windows, my have we come a long way.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > something changed in we7 which broke these setfiles.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Any enlightening information would be appreciated.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Regards.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > At 04:36 PM 7/12/2009, you wrote:
> >>>> > >I am having the same problem. If you move around
to quick in
> >>>> > >windows
> >>>> > >explorer or internet explorer w e will crash.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >Edward
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >-----Original Message-----
> >>>> > >From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>>> > >Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:29 PM
> >>>> > >To: [email protected]
> >>>> > >Subject: RE: 7.1 stability problems
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >Yes, Bill, I was; then I switched to dec-talk access 32,
> >>>> > from Eloquence, and
> >>>> > >things do seem much better. why not try that and see if it
> >>>> > makes a big
> >>>> > >difference; it will help them a lot, in tracking it down, if
> >>>> > you find this
> >>>> > >out.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >Chip
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >-----Original Message-----
> >>>> > >From: Bill Holton [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>>> > >Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:32 PM
> >>>> > >To: [email protected]
> >>>> > >Subject: 7.1 stability problems
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >Hi.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >Is anyone else having trouble with 7.1 when you start moving
> >>>> > fast around the
> >>>> > >computer? I have WE 7.1 stop talking on both my XP and
> >>>> > Vista machines, both
> >>>> > >using eloquence, if I start keying around too fast with
> >>>> > either Windows keys
> >>>> > >or WE hotkeys. The rest of the sounds on the PC work fine,
> >>>> > and it's not
> >>>> > >locking up, but it takes speech about ten seconds to start
> >>>> > again. Other
> >>>> > >times it doesn't start again, and the only way to get WE
> >>>> > back is to do a
> >>>> > >hard reset.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >On my Vista machine, I also have a problem I have had ever
> >>>> > since I started
> >>>> > >using Vista, only now it happens more frequently. Speech
> >>>> > will die, the
> >>>> > >other sounds are working fine, and the only way to get WE
> >>>> > back is to turn
> >>>> > >the machine off or do a start menu restart. Then, just
> >>>> > before Windows shuts
> >>>> > >down, the speech comes back fine, for about two seconds,
> >>>> > then the machine is
> >>>> > >restarted. This is very frustrating. Anyone else having
> >>>> > this situation?
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >Thanks. Bill
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >Bill
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
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