Hello!
Thanks for all the suggestions! Both my netbook and laptop have little
utilities that allow the Fn-key combinations to be used (such Fn+F5 to turn
the screen off). My best guess is that these are causing a conflict,
although it's strange that this is happening on machines from two different
manufacturers. A second possibility is that Dolphin's products are causing
a conflict. While I'm not running Hal or SuperNova at the same time as
Window-Eyes I do have these products installed. That is, I uninstalled all
Dolphin-products from my laptop, but I've seen some traces being left by
their uninstaller before. The version of Windows 7 that's running on my
laptop hasn't been exposed to the Internet, and it has been installed from a
retail-DVD, so it should be clean. But I will run a thorough virus and
spyware-scan nonetheless, just in case.
I have already tried the following, without success:
- Disable all WE scripts (I'm only running the scripts that come with
version 7.2 by default).
- Use different settings for the Space Threshold, and both the Cursor and
Trigger Delay.
I'll try using a different Windows keyboard layout later today and see if
that changes anything.
Thanks again for all the help!
Davy
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <[email protected]>
To: "Davy Kager" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and apostrophes
Have you tried to go to the Window-Eyes controlpanel by Ctrl-BackSlash,
then the File menu, Script Manager, and here choose to turn off all
scripts. Sounds like there could be a trouble with some kind of script,
that might conflict with other stuff on your computer.
Are you running any other software on your system, that in any way
interfere with the typing? I.e some kind of keyboard driver for things
like wireless keyboard.
Honestly, I'd never been into the trouble you discribe, neither heard of
it. So, these are mere blind shots. But definately sounds like you have
something running, that makes up a bit of conflict. It might not be a
problem in most cases, but when you load WE, and maybe one of the scripts;
Well, that's when the problem kicks in. And, I have seen some other
strange things happening from WE scripts loaded. Actually had to stop
using a couple of nice scripts, simply because they caused sluggishness on
the system.
First thing to do, is to turn off all scripts. If this solves your
problem, then turn back on, one by one, and see when the thing reaapears.
Just keep in mind, that the first script to be turned on, should ALWAYS be
the GWToolkit; and Homer script if innstalled.
Guess you are already aware of it, yet I am taking the opportunity to
remind you of a clean system. Things like trojans will sometimes interfere
with your system in manners like this. Don't trust your AntiVirus
software. They only take some trojans and keyboard loggers. Get a good
AntiSpyware program, like SuperAntiSpyware or similar, and make sure there
is no such bad stuff on your system. Even a clean out of your Cookies
folder might prove helpful. Have seen quite funny things, due to old - and
bad - cookies hanging around. No wonder, that AntiSpyware software runs a
thorough test on your cookies, as well.
Are you - by the way - running any other screen reader, simultaneously
loaded into the RAM? If so, try to turn off the other screen reader.
Usually, it might be possible to have several screen readers loaded at the
same time. But have actually seen cases where they seem to have certain
challenges in coexisting in RAM. Temporarily disabling the competiting
screen reader, might be a good way of tracking down, to what extend this
affects your problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Davy Kager" <[email protected]>
To: "James Mannion" <[email protected]>
Cc: "GW-Info" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and apostrophes
So far, I've seen this problem in any program I tested (Notepad, WordPad,
Outlook Express, Thunderbird, and a few others). It's not so much that
Window-Eyes is displaying the wrong thing, it actually appears on screen
that way. I'll do some more testing later today.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Mannion" <[email protected]>
To: "Davy Kager" <[email protected]>
Cc: "GW-Info" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and apostrophes
I do not doubt that you are having the problem, but what program are
you typing this in? Are you typing it in word, some other word
processor, notepad, what program? On windows 7 in my setup, which I do
not know how it differs from yours, I do not get that problem typing
in notepad.
On 9/11/10, Davy Kager <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello!
I type the following:
It's nice.
Basically I found out that if I type an apostrophe and then another two
characters, that I also get two apostrophes, one in the place where I
put
it, and another one letter after that. I'm using the set-up where the
apostrophe doesn't show up until you type the next character, which is
great
for putting accents on letters (like é or à).
However, when I type the apostrophe, then wait half a second, and then
enter
the next series of characters, it works fine. I had this problem when I
tried the Window-Eyes demo on Windows XP, but I'm also experiencing it
on
Windows 7 (on both a laptop and a netbook from different brands, so I
doubt
it's a specific problem with the computer I'm using).
Cheers!
Davy
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Mannion" <[email protected]>
To: "Davy Kager" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and apostrophes
Hi Davy,What are you typing in when this happens? I have tried typing
that sentence in notepad and did not have that problem with an extra '
at all. I can type that's nice and it comes out like you see above. I
do think I remember seeing what you describe happening somewhere at
some point though and I can't remember where. It must not bee due to
window-eyes in itself though because it doesn't happen in notepad.
On 9/11/10, Davy Kager <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello!
I am in the middle of switching to Window-Eyes as my main
screenreader,
which is also why I subscribed to some of the GW Micro mailing lists.
There
is one quite strange thing, however, that is holding me back, and a
quick
search through this list's archives didn't result in a solution.
That's
why
I thought I'd bring it up.
The problem is that when I am typing some text at a decent speed, a
sentence
like "That's nice." comes out as "That's'nice." So something is
putting
in
an extra apostrophe. I thought that Window-Eyes couldn't be
responsible
for
that, but when I shut it down I don't get this extra apostrophe.
This strange behavior obviously makes using Window-Eyes a bit of a
pain,
so
I was hoping there would be something I am forgetting about that would
correct this issue. Any suggestions will be very much appreciated!
Cheers!
Davy
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