I just checked for braille display and it says none.  Right after that I 
checked the app manager and this time lost speech right after entering the list 
of apps.  Had to hit escape twice to get back to your message.  Thanks for the 
idea though.

Steve

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chip Orange 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:54 PM
  Subject: RE: 7.5 beta 1: Temporary loss of speech with eloquence when working 
with app management area of control panel


  Steve,

  Is it possible that you are not using a braille display, but your window-eyes 
is set for you to have one?  I have seen a report like yours, when window-eyes 
has braille turned on, but there is no braille display; or maybe it was set for 
a braille display, but there was no braille display installed.  anyway, if you 
aren't using one, make sure window-eyes is set for no braille.

  hth,

  Chip




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  From: Steve Zielinski [mailto:[email protected]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 4:58 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: 7.5 beta 1: Temporary loss of speech with eloquence when working 
with app management area of control panel


  Using window xp professional, service pack 3, 512m ram.  This problem doesn't 
happen with the dectalk 32 window-eyes synthesizer but does happen with the 
eloquence that is tied into window-eyes, (using the Reed voice).

  When I go to the app menu, then right arrow on "app management", then arrow 
down to "app manager", once I hear the first item, if I down arrow to the next 
item, I get temporary loss of speech.  It becomes choppy, with a few phrases of 
the new item being read, a five or so second pause, then a bit more of a 
phrase, etc.  Sometimes the speech goes out completely, especially if I 
downarrow through a number of lines in that list of apps. 
  I get my speech back when I exit out of the control panel with the escape a 
couple times.  However, once I did hve to reboot by pressing the power button 
for a second or so.  That time, I had up and downarrowed through a number of 
apps, and even after hitting escape a few times, speech didn't return.  I 
either wasn't patient enough to see if it did come back or it truly was good 
and lost, which is why I rebooted.

  This is Not happening with the decktalk 32 windo-eyes synthesizer.  

  Nor does it happen with either synthesizer in the "add or remove apps" area 
of the app management section of control panel.

  Also, unrelated, I do sense a slight sluggishness while typing this message.  
I used to think that the sluggishness that has been reported was only happening 
in list boxes such as indexes of email messages, or windows explorer, etc.  But 
there is a very slight sluggishness while writing as well, but much less than 
the earlier one dealing with list boxes. I even notice when doing a 
ctrl-numpad-5 key to read current line, that there is a very slight 
sluggishness, compared to version 7.2. Same as I arrow through this message I'm 
writing.

  I'm positing this will be resolved when the issue of listbox sluggishness is 
handled.  I'm assuming they are related, but have no idea.

  Thanks,
  Steve
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