I also have a problem with the app manager losing speech. I use sapi VW Paul for my speech. Most of the time, once I have closed the app, speech will return. Sometimes, I can go through the entire list of 36 apps to check their status or version, but at other times, I may only make it through about 10 before speech crashes.


On 2/16/2011 9:01 PM, Steve Zielinski wrote:
I just checked for braille display and it says none. Right after that I checked the app manager and this time lost speech right after entering the list of apps. Had to hit escape twice to get back to your message. Thanks for the idea though.
Steve

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Chip Orange <mailto:[email protected]>
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:54 PM
    *Subject:* RE: 7.5 beta 1: Temporary loss of speech with eloquence
    when working with app management area of control panel

    Steve,
    Is it possible that you are not using a braille display, but your
    window-eyes is set for you to have one?  I have seen a report like
    yours, when window-eyes has braille turned on, but there is no
    braille display; or maybe it was set for a braille display, but
    there was no braille display installed.  anyway, if you aren't
    using one, make sure window-eyes is set for no braille.
    hth,
    Chip

    *From:* Steve Zielinski [mailto:[email protected]]
    *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2011 4:58 PM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* 7.5 beta 1: Temporary loss of speech with eloquence
    when working with app management area of control panel

    Using window xp professional, service pack 3, 512m ram.  This
    problem doesn't happen with the dectalk 32 window-eyes synthesizer
    but does happen with the eloquence that is tied into window-eyes,
    (using the Reed voice).
    When I go to the app menu, then right arrow on "app management",
    then arrow down to "app manager", once I hear the first item, if I
    down arrow to the next item, I get temporary loss of speech.  It
    becomes choppy, with a few phrases of the new item being read, a
five or so second pause, then a bit more of a phrase, etc. Sometimes the speech goes out completely, especially if I
    downarrow through a number of lines in that list of apps.
    I get my speech back when I exit out of the control panel with the
    escape a couple times.  However, once I did hve to reboot by
    pressing the power button for a second or so.  That time, I had up
    and downarrowed through a number of apps, and even after hitting
    escape a few times, speech didn't return.  I either wasn't patient
    enough to see if it did come back or it truly was good and lost,
    which is why I rebooted.
    This is Not happening with the decktalk 32 windo-eyes synthesizer.
    Nor does it happen with either synthesizer in the "add or remove
    apps" area of the app management section of control panel.
    Also, unrelated, I do sense a slight sluggishness while typing
    this message.  I used to think that the sluggishness that has been
    reported was only happening in list boxes such as indexes of email
    messages, or windows explorer, etc.  But there is a very slight
    sluggishness while writing as well, but much less than the earlier
    one dealing with list boxes. I even notice when doing a
    ctrl-numpad-5 key to read current line, that there is a very
    slight sluggishness, compared to version 7.2. Same as I arrow
    through this message I'm writing.
    I'm positing this will be resolved when the issue of listbox
    sluggishness is handled.  I'm assuming they are related, but have
    no idea.
    Thanks,
    Steve


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