Hi Tom and gw staff,
OK, that gets us going somewhere. I did have braille set to on in core
functions, braille.
So I turned it off and saved to disk.
then when I go to app manager it reads the apps nicely enough, no speech
loss or stuttering of speech.
But when I leave app manager it turns out the braile under core functions,
is turned back on. And the problem of stuttering starts again. This
changed even though I saved the braille to off onto disk. I know gw is
working on the changing of settings of the control panel. I hope when that
is fixed, my problem will be fixed as well.
I can definately reproduce this problem and changing the braille to off and
making sure bbraille display is none in devices, braille, seems to fix the
problem.
Thanks
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Kingston" <[email protected]>
To: "Steve Zielinski" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: 7.5 beta 1: Temporary loss of speech with eloquence when
working with app management area of control panel
I'd also make sure that braille is off under General, Core Functions.
Hth,
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Zielinski" <[email protected]>
To: "Chip Orange" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: 7.5 beta 1: Temporary loss of speech with eloquence when
working with app management area of control panel
I just checked for braille display and it says none. Right after that I
checked the app manager and this time lost speech right after entering the
list of apps. Had to hit escape twice to get back to your message.
Thanks for the idea though.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Chip Orange
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: 7.5 beta 1: Temporary loss of speech with eloquence when
working with app management area of control panel
Steve,
Is it possible that you are not using a braille display, but your
window-eyes is set for you to have one? I have seen a report like yours,
when window-eyes has braille turned on, but there is no braille display;
or maybe it was set for a braille display, but there was no braille
display installed. anyway, if you aren't using one, make sure window-eyes
is set for no braille.
hth,
Chip
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From: Steve Zielinski [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 4:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: 7.5 beta 1: Temporary loss of speech with eloquence when working
with app management area of control panel
Using window xp professional, service pack 3, 512m ram. This problem
doesn't happen with the dectalk 32 window-eyes synthesizer but does happen
with the eloquence that is tied into window-eyes, (using the Reed voice).
When I go to the app menu, then right arrow on "app management", then
arrow down to "app manager", once I hear the first item, if I down arrow
to the next item, I get temporary loss of speech. It becomes choppy, with
a few phrases of the new item being read, a five or so second pause, then
a bit more of a phrase, etc. Sometimes the speech goes out completely,
especially if I downarrow through a number of lines in that list of apps.
I get my speech back when I exit out of the control panel with the escape
a couple times. However, once I did hve to reboot by pressing the power
button for a second or so. That time, I had up and downarrowed through a
number of apps, and even after hitting escape a few times, speech didn't
return. I either wasn't patient enough to see if it did come back or it
truly was good and lost, which is why I rebooted.
This is Not happening with the decktalk 32 windo-eyes synthesizer.
Nor does it happen with either synthesizer in the "add or remove apps"
area of the app management section of control panel.
Also, unrelated, I do sense a slight sluggishness while typing this
message. I used to think that the sluggishness that has been reported was
only happening in list boxes such as indexes of email messages, or windows
explorer, etc. But there is a very slight sluggishness while writing as
well, but much less than the earlier one dealing with list boxes. I even
notice when doing a ctrl-numpad-5 key to read current line, that there is
a very slight sluggishness, compared to version 7.2. Same as I arrow
through this message I'm writing.
I'm positing this will be resolved when the issue of listbox sluggishness
is handled. I'm assuming they are related, but have no idea.
Thanks,
Steve
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