I'm going to jump in here, and most likely shouldn't, but your post almost
screams at me to do so.
First of all, how about using a spell checker if you're going to use words
you can't spell. Also I noticed in a couple of places where you obviously
forgot to tap the space bar, and others where you just simply left out
letters. If you're going to rant, at least do it where those that read it
can read it clearly.
With that said, I don't think connecting the dots to your conversation is
the problem others have with your post so much as it is your rather brash
attitude.
I've only been a list member for a couple of weeks, but I've not seen any
over the top praise of GW Micro, nor have I witnessed any begging on the
list either.
I don't visit any blind forums so can't speak to the attitudes of those
users, and only have a couple of friends that are blind. However, this list
is a support list for GW Micro; what would you expect to see here other than
GW Micro talk? Even if there was an abundance of praise for the GWM staff,
what's wrong with that? I can tell you that I've been a GW Micro user since
1993 and I'm very thankful for their efforts. I'm fully aware that they are
a "For Profit" company and that doesn't bother me in the least. In fact,
I'm happy for them. With that said, I'm sure that Doug started the company
not just because he could make a buck, but he saw a need and designed a
solution for that need. That's just called "The great American Enterprise
at work." I also believe that Doug and the staff care about their clients a
lot more than the majority of companies out there. Is Window EYES the end
all of screen readers? Can't tell you. Probably not, but it does what I
need it to do when I need it to do it. I'm too busy of a person to install
and uninstall a bunch of different screen access software when I'm just
going to come back to Window EYES. That's not to say it doesn't have its
issues, but I'm lucky enough to have a very beautiful wife that is more than
willing to read anything on the screen that WE doesn't recognize. I' tried
JAWS years ago and didn't like it, nor did I appreciate the attitude I got
from Hinter Joyce's support staff. On the other hand any time, and it has
been very rare, that I call GW Micro for tech support, not only did I get
prompt and courteous replies, but was told thank you for being a GW Micro
customer. Try getting that from Microsoft, Intuit, or Freedom Scientific
for that matter.
From this post I gather your family has and is doing well for it self, and
that's great. I'm proud for your family and wish nothing but all the best
and success for them. I hope and pray that you're able to live up to the
family expectations, and carry on being successful with it. I've been self
employed for 30 plus years at a business I started by my self, and still
operate to this day. However, there is a great portion of the blind
community that hasn't and isn't as fortunate as you or I am. Depending on
what resource you look at those numbers can be any where from fifty to
eighty-five percent of the blind population. Why? Some of it is personal
ambition, but the largest majority of it is general ignorance and prejudice
against the blind community as a whole. There's also the camp of people out
there that think just because a few blind people are asses that we all are.
From the tone of your post I'm assuming that you're still a youngster, so
take it from an Old Timer ... turn the attitude down a notch, be thankful
for what you have, and show some thoughtfulness and compassion for those
less fortunate.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Wolfe" <[email protected]>
To: "gw-info" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: I think this could be of use to all of you
Dear Jim and countless others,
Did I mention anything about reporting bugs or update ideas even
once in my e-mail? No, I didn't nor did I mention that profit was a
bad thing either. Don't put my words out of their context or meaning
in the coorilation to the discussion just hate whn people do that when
they obviously can't connect the dots to my conversation.
What I meant was that since Window-Eyes is a private company that
they deserve relitively moderate praise left handed not ob obvert
praise every second that one wakes up. People on here like most blind
forums think that hese people these computer scientists or engineers
are doing this to help us out. Nothing further can be from the truth
in that they are doing it for the bottomline cause of my families
owning three business that you can tell that my impartiality from such
a discussion. However, I think Window-eyes needs more criticism like
Microsoft, Apple and others recieve for services that are notyet
ringored because in part advvocacy like Katherine is dealing with and
collaberation disunity between companies and failed retrofits of set
files or in general unaccessible productive programs not Skype and
otrs that play relitively no role as far as I'm concerned in finding a
job. The prioties of GW-Micro should only be on labor related
endeavors to get blind people productive nothing more or less can do.
hth,
Peter
On 5/11/12, Jim Grimsby JR. <[email protected]> wrote:
Sorry perhaps I missed it but what is the point of the below message.
First
there is nothing wrong with prayzing a group of people for doing a good
job.
There is also nothing wrong with asking for new things and reporting bugs
or
problems. Also there is nothing wrong with making money. Sorry I just
don't see your point.
As for ninite it is a grait tool for getting you up and running it works
good with window-eyes and the programs listed on the screen readers page
work good with it as well.
Hth
Jim Grimsby JR.
E-mail and Windows Live Messenger: [email protected]
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Wolfe [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:18 AM
To: gw-info
Subject: Re: I think this could be of use to all of you
Finally there is actually a post worth reading on here! All I hear
on here is grubbing about how great GW-Micro the company who profits
from us customers like we are fortunant to be with them not the other
way round. This isn't a charity, yet people beg on here just sad. Here
though is perhaps something of use for us productive beings or
attempting beings to be able to use.
Thanks,
Peter
On 5/11/12, Peter Wolfe <[email protected]> wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chris Skarstad <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:42:03 -0400
Subject: Re: I think this could be of use to all of you
To: [email protected]
Yes this works great! when people set up their computers I build a
ninite installer for them and it just works.
Another trick I learned is that Ninite always checks for the latest
version of a program. so once you download an instalation file for a
program, keep it! Then when you hear about a new version of a program
you know you have a ninite installer for, just run the installer again
and it updates you to the latest version of that program. How cool is
that!
On 5/11/2012 11:59 AM, Bill Scherer wrote:
I saw this this morning and they have a page just for APPS that work
with screen readers. How cool is that.
From what I know, you can download this program and have it install
programs
for you--free of those annoying "nexts" and tool bars. It will
download and or update a list of programs unattended.
I am going to try it on the new computer.
Bill
Ninite - Install or Update Multiple Apps at Once
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