My two cents,

I have mixed feelings about this. I, like many others, was expecting some sort of stability update to Window-Eyes. I have to admit that I was disappointed at first. The backlash on this list took me by surprise but I also felt that there were some valid points raised earlier in the conversation thread. Then, as I expected, GW support chimed in. Aaron's comment made me rethink about this new application because there are two different teams of developers, as has been mentioned. Okay, I thought, maybe I should look into this a bit more because I haven't even seen the interface. I began to think about Facebook itself and how much I don't use it because of the inaccessibility of the mobile site. Sure, there are some things that are easy to do like replying to comments and updating statuses, but some of the things like chatting and attaching links to timelines are difficult for me.

In the end, I bought the app for the current $25 price. I will have to say though that I'm a little annoyed at the annual charge. But if that's the way GW thinks it should be, and they need money to continue to develop apps such as this, it's not so bad. I just did the math and it's the same cost as a small Starbucks coffee per month. So, think that that way, how much money do people spend on that every day? That was rhetorical.

One thing, if I may suggest, for future updates to this particular app would be its ability to interact with LinkedIn. This is a site that I have very little exposure to but will be using considerably in my search for employment.

One last thing. For those of you who do not use social media, I think the name is misleading. Sure, it is a way to be social, but it is also a way to find jobs, create business contacts, and interact with almost every website on the Internet. I suppose it all depends on how one uses the technology.

Those are just my opinions and they are bound to change with use and improvement of the application. People ust also remember, too, that the entire Window-Eyes community is not on this mailing list. :-) That may seem obvious and an immaterial point, but that survey went out to everybody.

Thanks for reading, Dave
On 7/3/2013 3:36 PM, Pat Ferguson wrote:
Hi Chris and Everyone,

I'm wondering if someone should create a list called Whiners! Maybe these people would just go away, and we could concentrate on the important and positive things about Window-Eyes and this SocialEyes product, or even the kindness and other comments, if necessary.

Maybe these whiners could put "Whining" in their subject, so those of us who are really interested in reading the important and positive feedback and comments, could skip those whining messages.

I mean, really! The product isn't even released yet, no one has seenit, the tutorial was excellent, and people are complaining! If people don't want to use it, they don't have to.

I'm not against people stating their opinion, even if it is not for the product, but people could be kind about it.

I personaly am looking forward to SocialEyes, and I think it is going to be a great product!

The loving folks at GW Micro work very hard, and what is wrong with a little yearly subscription if it's something we'll use?

I didn't take the survey. I guess I forgot about it.

Just don't include the loaf of milk and the gallon of bread. <grin> lol.

I hope that GW Micro will come out with other great Apps like this one.

I'm loving Window-Eyes and I know I'll be loving SocialEyes, as well.

Keep up the excellent work, GW Micro. <smile>

Pat Ferguson

At 04:10 PM 7/3/2013, you wrote:
Hi folks

Let me jump in here and stress one very important thing. Just because GW releases a program like Social-eyes, does not mean they have completely dropped or have lessened development on window-eyes. There are 2 teams that do programming for GW Micro. One works on window-eyes, and the other one works on stuff like GW connect, Social-eyes and other programs. and if you don't want it, nobody is forcing you to buy it. It is just, that, simple.

On 7/3/2013 4:55 PM, Stephen Clark wrote:
Exactly. Just the other day I was wondering when the next release of Window-eyes would be coming out addressing many bugs and known instability issues that myself and others have been dealing with for some time now. Instead I'm faced with yet another GW product which I personally will never use. I'm happy for those who want to use Facebook, Twitter, and all the other social media sites, but is this really a priority? There's even sites that haven't come out yet that will probably replace Facebook in their popularity (remember MySpace?).

Anyway, my point is, when so much time goes by with out an update to your main Window-eyes product and then you announce this Social-eyes app, is it any wonder that people are getting upset and frustrated?

On 7/3/2013 4:20 PM, Jon Rawlings wrote:
At Tom: The reason for the complaints is that many of us had higher expectations of GW Micro than what we have here. Simply being silent doesn't effectively convey anything to the company; it only relieves you of the burden of having to hear the complaints. Window Eyes has gone up in price and down in stability and user-friendliness. GW has done a lot of good things, but they are slipping, and I for one, am disappointed that they focused any effort at all into something as ridiculous as social media, especially when accessibility is pretty good through the mobile side of the Facebook website, rather than use that effort to improve the Window Eyes software. And at Solomon, you're kidding, right? A company has no obligation to meet the needs of its customer base? What enormous rock do you have your head under? That is precisely the business any company is in if the goal is to try to make money. Of course that is their end goal? I'm also very disappointed with GW that they'd go to the trouble to get everyone all revved up about this when there's really nothing to get all that excited about. And as to taking or leaving it, do you not remember the uproar over the worst of the operating systems put out by Microsoft such as Windows Millennium or Windows 8? Do you honestly think Microsoft would have made the effort to improve on Windows ME to get to XP if all their customers just kept their mouths shut? Sorry, but many of you seam to think that because GW makes software that we depend on that they are above all criticism or reproach. Well, when I'm paying nearly $1,000 for the software and $175 plus for each upgrade, you bet I'm within my rights to complain when they don't deliver. The rest of you can blindly worship at the alter if you like, but I'll have no part of it. And trust me, when they have, and hopefully some day will, really improve their Window Eyes software and it really is better than what's out now, I will be one of the first to tell them how much I appreciate it. Jon
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