I hope despite the complainers on the list that this will not discourage gw from putting out good apps like social eyes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 7:14 PM Subject: Re: SocialEyes:
>I think some basic understanding of how things work at GW Micro will be of >some help to folks. Remember, in their promotional item, they mentioned >the exact words, access. solution. They made no mention of Window-eyes, or >new features or fixes added to it, nor did they mention anything about gw >connect adding support for Windows live, which has been mentioned here, ad >nausium. It simply is not going to happen unless the skype folks allow it >to happen and, to this date that has not happened. > There are 2 teams of programmers at gw Micro, some work on other apps of > interest that people have indicated that they want, and another team works > on window-eyes. So even though GW is essentially giving people what they > want by providing 2 sets of apps for different types of audiences, people > still complain. If I were a gw staff member, I'd be pretty upset at this > point. No they may not give you the exact features you ask for in a > window-eyes update, and they may give you an app you may not use, but they > don't do this just purely by guess work, or what sounds fun at the time. > they do it because they do research and they followed what people told > them. So give em a break. Use their stuff or don't, it's up to you. > > > > > > On 7/3/2013 6:01 PM, Stephen Clark wrote: >> Another good point. >> >> >> On 7/3/2013 4:29 PM, net bat wrote: >>> and i hope you do not do what some listers suggested and add the yearly >>> subscriptions to the w e s m a plan. >>> why should i have to pay for something i will never use. >>> facebook is gathering information on you that you never gave them from >>> other sources without your knolage or permission. >>> this was talked about on last weeks leo leport radio show. >>> techguylabs.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Jon Rawlings >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 1:20 PM >>> To: [email protected] ; Solomon Mekonnen >>> Cc: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: SocialEyes: >>> >>> At Tom: The reason for the complaints is that many of us had higher >>> expectations of GW Micro than what we have here. Simply being silent >>> doesn't effectively convey anything to the company; it only relieves you >>> of >>> the burden of having to hear the complaints. Window Eyes has gone up in >>> price and down in stability and user-friendliness. GW has done a lot of >>> good things, but they are slipping, and I for one, am disappointed that >>> they >>> focused any effort at all into something as ridiculous as social media, >>> especially when accessibility is pretty good through the mobile side of >>> the >>> Facebook website, rather than use that effort to improve the Window Eyes >>> software. And at Solomon, you're kidding, right? A company has no >>> obligation to meet the needs of its customer base? What enormous rock >>> do >>> you have your head under? That is precisely the business any company is >>> in >>> if the goal is to try to make money. Of course that is their end goal? >>> I'm >>> also very disappointed with GW that they'd go to the trouble to get >>> everyone >>> all revved up about this when there's really nothing to get all that >>> excited >>> about. And as to taking or leaving it, do you not remember the uproar >>> over >>> the worst of the operating systems put out by Microsoft such as Windows >>> Millennium or Windows 8? Do you honestly think Microsoft would have >>> made >>> the effort to improve on Windows ME to get to XP if all their customers >>> just >>> kept their mouths shut? Sorry, but many of you seam to think that >>> because >>> GW makes software that we depend on that they are above all criticism or >>> reproach. Well, when I'm paying nearly $1,000 for the software and $175 >>> plus for each upgrade, you bet I'm within my rights to complain when >>> they >>> don't deliver. The rest of you can blindly worship at the alter if you >>> like, but I'll have no part of it. And trust me, when they have, and >>> hopefully some day will, really improve their Window Eyes software and >>> it >>> really is better than what's out now, I will be one of the first to tell >>> them how much I appreciate it. Jon >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Solomon Mekonnen" >>> <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Cc: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 12:36 PM >>> Subject: Re: SocialEyes: >>> >>> >>>> Exactly right! Thanks! >>>> At 01:11 PM 7/3/2013, Aaron Smith wrote: >>>>> Hi, Bob. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, we hope to have it available, along with the actual software >>>>> bits, on Monday. We didn't want to release it, and then leave for the >>>>> holiday (check your local listings). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Aaron >>>>> >>>>> On 7/3/2013 1:08 PM, bob jutzi wrote: >>>>>> Are any plans in the works for Socialeyes subscription to be >>>>>> available through the on-line catalog? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7/3/2013 12:50 PM, Tom Kingston wrote: >>>>>>> Indeed. Thanks for an objective breath of fresh air, Solomon. >>>>>>> I hate to be the one to break the news, but blindness is a very >>>>>>> costly >>>>>>> disability. >>>>>>> It's simply a case of supply and demand. >>>>>>> And it never ceases to amaze me how much time folks spend >>>>>>> complaining on >>>>>>> this list. >>>>>>> If any other software developer put out a new product you weren't >>>>>>> interested in, >>>>>>> thought unnecessary, or thought they should work on their products >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> you are most >>>>>>> interested in would you pummel their support list with useless >>>>>>> whining >>>>>>> and bashing? >>>>>>> The work has been done. The product is out. What's the point? Like >>>>>>> everything else >>>>>>> in this world, take it or leave it. It makes life much easier. >>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>> On 7/3/2013 10:54 AM, Jeff Bishop wrote: >>>>>>> Thank you for this. >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Solomon Mekonnen [ >>>>>>> mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>> ] >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 7:50 AM >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: SocialEyes: >>>>>>> I am fascinated to no end how some of you are readily willing to >>>>>>> make >>>>>>> negative statement without any relevant objective to meet. You are >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> obligated to buy anything at all. A merchant is not obligated to >>>>>>> satisfy >>>>>>> anyone's need. You buy it if you like it, and you don't if you >>>>>>> don't. >>>>>>> What >>>>>>> good purpose does your ridicule and negative remarks accomplish? I >>>>>>> am >>>>>>> amazed how much we compete in being the voice of the most offensive >>>>>>> remarks. >>>>>>> If you wish to let the provider know that you are not impressed, all >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> need is not say anything. They are not dumb! They will get the >>>>>>> message >>>>>>> when the clientele is quiet. >>>>>>> That is just my thought. Please don't waste your breath trying to >>>>>>> tell me >>>>>>> off! >>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>> Solomon. >>>>>>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>>>>> sender >>>>>>> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your >>>>>>> message is >>>>>>> related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> so the entire list will receive it. >>>>>>> GW-Info messages are archived at >>>>>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo >>>>>>> .. 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