The radio is its own chip or perhaps may be a larger part of a microprocessor chip. So eliminating it wouldn't really add space for more code.
Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Giovanelli" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits Hi, Colleen, I play music files or MP 3 files and don't use the media player, at least not directly. I use File Manager. I have not used the Daisy player but it could be that others use it. I really see no need for the radio. Most of us have small radios now. If there's a consensus among the users, some things could be eliminated, thereby freeing up space for code which most people will find more useful than the radio (as an example). Joe G. ----- Original Message ----- From: Colleen Roth <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Friday, Aug 14, 2009 11:00:34 Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits > > > Hi Tessa, > I could live without the Daisy Player. It is nice to have things in > one device but for the life of me I do not know why people need to > have the radio in their Braille Sense. > Having a device that allows me to handle email and use the Web Browser > I find it to be a little bit of Heaven. > Colleen Roth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tessa" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 2009/08/14 14:51:59 > Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits > > > > > > > Wouldn't it be nice if we could customize our devices? > > I bought the BS+ BECAUSE OF X's braille display, the 8gb of flash > > memory > > and a couple other things I can't think of right now LOL. > > All the PDA's are trying to do a little bit of everything which is > > okay if > > you really want everything. I could easily live without the media > > player, > > radio and daisy player but since they're part of the package I'll > > learn them > > eventually and enjoy them no doubt. > > On the other hand having everything in one unit means you don't have > > to drag > > around a handfull of different tech devices which suits me fine. > > I'm definitely happy with my bs+, but with any product one can > > always find > > suggestions for improvements. > > Tessa > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colleen Roth" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:44 PM > > Subject: RE: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits > > > > > > Hi All, > > I love my Braille Sense Classic. > > I do not like and want to use a Computer. > > As long as I can read txt or doc files and receive and send email I > > will be > > very happy. > > I also like using the Internet but could live without the Web > > Browser if I > > had to. > > I am wondering if the Braille Plus would do more than my BS. I still > > would > > want my BS SO I could read things in Braille. I also think it is > > probably > > easier to use than a Braille Plus. > > Colleen Roth > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: unknown <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Date: 2009/08/14 12:53:30 > > Subject: RE: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joseph and All, > > > > > > Joseph, I do agree with you that BS AND VS USERS NEED TO KEEP A > > > CLEAR > > > PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THESE DEVICES ARE AND ARE NOT. They are a > > > PDA, NOT A > > > LAPTOP OR DESKTOP COMPUTER. They are meant to be used on the go. > > > Think > > > of it as your travel suitcase for information. You can't fit > > > everything > > > in there, just as you can't fit your entire wardrobe and other > > > items in > > > your suitcase when you travel. > > > > > > Yes, I am well aware that for some people they just can't afford a > > > note > > > taker and a computer or laptop along with the screen reading > > > software. > > > This is why it is important to assess all of your needs before > > > buying any > > > product. If you have a need to create seriously formatted > > > documents, or > > > manage complex databases, then a note taker might not be what you > > > need at > > > that time. For about the same money you can spend on a note > > > taker, you > > > can buy a netbook and screen reading software. > > > > > > I am not trying to convince people that the BS AND VS ARE NOT > > > WORTH WHILE > > > DEVICES. I love my VS FOR WHAT IT IS, AND HAVE RECOMMENDED IT TO > > > MANY > > > OTHER PEOPLE. However, I have recommended other devices after > > > assessing a > > > person's needs. > > > > > > Keep in mind that the more features that get packed into a device > > > will > > > raise the price. > > > > > > Annette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Joseph Lee [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:08 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > Nice to see a steady flow of suggestions about Braille sense. Some > > > of them > > > included foreign language support, word count and so forth. > > > Although they > > > were good ones, one needs to consider if it is worth it to put it > > > on a > > > device that has technical limits. Not that I am saying that BS > > > FAMILY HAS > > > OUTWARD LIMITS, BUT IN TERMS OF SPECS AND OS, IT DOES HAVE LIMITS. > > > First, as mike said, Braille Sense is a PDA. In other words, > > > Braille > > > Sense is meant to be PC COMPANION, NOT A PC REPLACEMENT (ALTHOUGH > > > I've > > > seen some people mistaken it for such). In other words, not all > > > things > > > that can be done on a computer cannot be done under Braille Sense. > > > For > > > instance, not all websites that a Windows XP MACHINE CAN HANDLE > > > CANNOT BE > > > NAVIGATED USING Braille Sense. > > > On the hardware side, the line between PC AND PDA IS BECOMING LESS > > > DIFFERENTIATED - AT LEAST WHEN BS IS CONCERNED. Braille Sense has > > > one of > > > the good processors for mobile devices, as well as sufficient > > > memory to > > > run applications and store useful data. But in terms of software > > > side, it > > > is not. Braille Sense runs under Windows CE - NOT REGULAR > > > Wihndows, folks. > > > Windows CE IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OS ARCHITECTURE THAN Windows > > > NT > > > FAMILY. Thus, it has limits, such as 32 MB OF VIRTUAL MEMORY AND > > > 32 > > > PROCESS LIMIT (THIS IS THE REASON WHY BS WOULD ONLY ALLOW SEVEN > > > PROGRAMS > > > MAXIMUM). As for virtual memory, I need solid evidence of things > > > such as > > > browser crashing or other slow downs before explaining what > > > exactly it is > > > and its limits (if demands requires me to, but right now I am > > > going > > > through summer school in college). > > > Also, as I have stressed on another list, writing code for > > > embedded > > > devices such as Braille Sense carries different requirements. One > > > needs to > > > be careful about memory usage, processor architecture and so > > > forth. Just > > > because we imagine things in our heads and pray that it will > > > appear out of > > > nowhere does not mean that it will happen soon - one needs to > > > plan, > > > compose, debug, recompile and release the software (if stable > > > enough) > > > numerous times before a suggestion or feature request will work > > > properly. > > > Also, it seems that the manual is wrong about type of USB PORT. > > > Braille > > > Sense does NOT HAVE USB OTG (On-the-go) technology at all. All it > > > has are > > > one USB HOST AND ONE USB CLIENT, T's all. If it had OTG PORT, > > > THEORETICALLY Braille Sense can work with two USB CLIENT DEVICES > > > AT ONCE - > > > ONE ON BS's own uSB HOST PORT, ANOTHER ONE ON THE USB CLIENT PORT > > > WITH A > > > DEDICATED ADAPTER. > > > As to what USB OTG STANDARD IS, I'll compose the article in > > > question when > > > there is enough demand. For those who have seen me on other lists, > > > you > > > would know what OTG IS AND MY ARTICLE STYLE... > > > Cheers, > > > Joseph P.S. Alex, do you agree with me on this one? > >
