Hi Tessa,
I could live without the Daisy Player. It is nice to have things in one
device but for the life of me I do not know why people need to have the
radio in their Braille Sense.
Having a device that allows me to handle email and use the Web Browser
I find it to be a little bit of Heaven.
Colleen Roth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tessa" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: 2009/08/14 14:51:59
Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits
>
>
> Wouldn't it be nice if we could customize our devices?
> I bought the BS+ BECAUSE OF X's braille display, the 8gb of flash
> memory
> and a couple other things I can't think of right now LOL.
> All the PDA's are trying to do a little bit of everything which is okay
> if
> you really want everything. I could easily live without the media
> player,
> radio and daisy player but since they're part of the package I'll learn
> them
> eventually and enjoy them no doubt.
> On the other hand having everything in one unit means you don't have to
> drag
> around a handfull of different tech devices which suits me fine.
> I'm definitely happy with my bs+, but with any product one can always
> find
> suggestions for improvements.
> Tessa
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colleen Roth" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:44 PM
> Subject: RE: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits
>
>
> Hi All,
> I love my Braille Sense Classic.
> I do not like and want to use a Computer.
> As long as I can read txt or doc files and receive and send email I
> will be
> very happy.
> I also like using the Internet but could live without the Web Browser
> if I
> had to.
> I am wondering if the Braille Plus would do more than my BS. I still
> would
> want my BS SO I could read things in Braille. I also think it is
> probably
> easier to use than a Braille Plus.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: unknown <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 2009/08/14 12:53:30
> Subject: RE: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Joseph and All,
> >
> > Joseph, I do agree with you that BS AND VS USERS NEED TO KEEP A CLEAR
> > PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THESE DEVICES ARE AND ARE NOT. They are a PDA,
> > NOT A
> > LAPTOP OR DESKTOP COMPUTER. They are meant to be used on the go.
> > Think
> > of it as your travel suitcase for information. You can't fit
> > everything
> > in there, just as you can't fit your entire wardrobe and other items
> > in
> > your suitcase when you travel.
> >
> > Yes, I am well aware that for some people they just can't afford a
> > note
> > taker and a computer or laptop along with the screen reading
> > software.
> > This is why it is important to assess all of your needs before buying
> > any
> > product. If you have a need to create seriously formatted documents,
> > or
> > manage complex databases, then a note taker might not be what you
> > need at
> > that time. For about the same money you can spend on a note taker,
> > you
> > can buy a netbook and screen reading software.
> >
> > I am not trying to convince people that the BS AND VS ARE NOT WORTH
> > WHILE
> > DEVICES. I love my VS FOR WHAT IT IS, AND HAVE RECOMMENDED IT TO
> > MANY
> > OTHER PEOPLE. However, I have recommended other devices after
> > assessing a
> > person's needs.
> >
> > Keep in mind that the more features that get packed into a device
> > will
> > raise the price.
> >
> > Annette
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Joseph Lee [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:08 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi folks,
> > Nice to see a steady flow of suggestions about Braille sense. Some of
> > them
> > included foreign language support, word count and so forth. Although
> > they
> > were good ones, one needs to consider if it is worth it to put it on
> > a
> > device that has technical limits. Not that I am saying that BS FAMILY
> > HAS
> > OUTWARD LIMITS, BUT IN TERMS OF SPECS AND OS, IT DOES HAVE LIMITS.
> > First, as mike said, Braille Sense is a PDA. In other words, Braille
> > Sense is meant to be PC COMPANION, NOT A PC REPLACEMENT (ALTHOUGH
> > I've
> > seen some people mistaken it for such). In other words, not all
> > things
> > that can be done on a computer cannot be done under Braille Sense.
> > For
> > instance, not all websites that a Windows XP MACHINE CAN HANDLE
> > CANNOT BE
> > NAVIGATED USING Braille Sense.
> > On the hardware side, the line between PC AND PDA IS BECOMING LESS
> > DIFFERENTIATED - AT LEAST WHEN BS IS CONCERNED. Braille Sense has one
> > of
> > the good processors for mobile devices, as well as sufficient memory
> > to
> > run applications and store useful data. But in terms of software
> > side, it
> > is not. Braille Sense runs under Windows CE - NOT REGULAR Wihndows,
> > folks.
> > Windows CE IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OS ARCHITECTURE THAN Windows NT
> > FAMILY. Thus, it has limits, such as 32 MB OF VIRTUAL MEMORY AND 32
> > PROCESS LIMIT (THIS IS THE REASON WHY BS WOULD ONLY ALLOW SEVEN
> > PROGRAMS
> > MAXIMUM). As for virtual memory, I need solid evidence of things such
> > as
> > browser crashing or other slow downs before explaining what exactly
> > it is
> > and its limits (if demands requires me to, but right now I am going
> > through summer school in college).
> > Also, as I have stressed on another list, writing code for embedded
> > devices such as Braille Sense carries different requirements. One
> > needs to
> > be careful about memory usage, processor architecture and so forth.
> > Just
> > because we imagine things in our heads and pray that it will appear
> > out of
> > nowhere does not mean that it will happen soon - one needs to plan,
> > compose, debug, recompile and release the software (if stable enough)
> > numerous times before a suggestion or feature request will work
> > properly.
> > Also, it seems that the manual is wrong about type of USB PORT.
> > Braille
> > Sense does NOT HAVE USB OTG (On-the-go) technology at all. All it has
> > are
> > one USB HOST AND ONE USB CLIENT, T's all. If it had OTG PORT,
> > THEORETICALLY Braille Sense can work with two USB CLIENT DEVICES AT
> > ONCE -
> > ONE ON BS's own uSB HOST PORT, ANOTHER ONE ON THE USB CLIENT PORT
> > WITH A
> > DEDICATED ADAPTER.
> > As to what USB OTG STANDARD IS, I'll compose the article in question
> > when
> > there is enough demand. For those who have seen me on other lists,
> > you
> > would know what OTG IS AND MY ARTICLE STYLE...
> > Cheers,
> > Joseph P.S. Alex, do you agree with me on this one?
>