The space saved by removing the code to control the radio chip would be extremely small. I think the radio is just a feature that is not very popular, like the remote synthesizer option on the Braillenote family (the bn can speak whatever a screenreader speaks). Since it is there, though, I do not see the need to remove it, since it takes up little space and is not in the way. Just my thoughts.

Have a great day,
Alex
New email address: [email protected]
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Giovanelli" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits


Hi, Colleen,

I play music files or MP 3 files and don't use the media player, at least not directly. I use File Manager. I have not used the Daisy player but it could be that others use it.

I really see no need for the radio.  Most of us have small radios now.

If there's a consensus among the users, some things could be eliminated, thereby freeing up space for code which most people will find more useful than the radio (as an example).

Joe G.

----- Original Message -----
From: Colleen Roth <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, Aug 14, 2009 11:00:34
Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits



Hi Tessa,
I could live without the Daisy Player. It is nice to have things in one device but for the life of me I do not know why people need to have the radio in their Braille Sense.
Having a device that allows me to handle email and use the Web Browser
I find it to be a little bit of Heaven.
Colleen Roth

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tessa" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Date: 2009/08/14 14:51:59
Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits

>
>
> Wouldn't it be nice if we could customize our devices?
> I bought the BS+ BECAUSE OF X's braille display, the 8gb of flash > memory
> and a couple other things I can't think of right now LOL.
> All the PDA's are trying to do a little bit of everything which is okay > if > you really want everything. I could easily live without the media > player, > radio and daisy player but since they're part of the package I'll learn > them
> eventually and enjoy them no doubt.
> On the other hand having everything in one unit means you don't have to > drag
> around a handfull of different tech devices which suits me fine.
> I'm definitely happy with my bs+, but with any product one can always > find
> suggestions for improvements.
> Tessa
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colleen Roth" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:44 PM
> Subject: RE: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits
>
>
> Hi All,
> I love my Braille Sense Classic.
> I do not like and want to use a Computer.
> As long as I can read txt or doc files and receive and send email I > will be
> very happy.
> I also like using the Internet but could live without the Web Browser > if I
> had to.
> I am wondering if the Braille Plus would do more than my BS. I still > would > want my BS SO I could read things in Braille. I also think it is > probably
> easier to use than a Braille Plus.
> Colleen Roth
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: unknown <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 2009/08/14 12:53:30
> Subject: RE: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Joseph and All,
> >
> > Joseph, I do agree with you that BS AND VS USERS NEED TO KEEP A CLEAR
> > PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THESE DEVICES ARE AND ARE NOT. They are a PDA, > > NOT A > > LAPTOP OR DESKTOP COMPUTER. They are meant to be used on the go. > > Think > > of it as your travel suitcase for information. You can't fit > > everything > > in there, just as you can't fit your entire wardrobe and other items > > in
> > your suitcase when you travel.
> >
> > Yes, I am well aware that for some people they just can't afford a > > note > > taker and a computer or laptop along with the screen reading > > software. > > This is why it is important to assess all of your needs before buying > > any > > product. If you have a need to create seriously formatted documents, > > or > > manage complex databases, then a note taker might not be what you > > need at > > that time. For about the same money you can spend on a note taker, > > you
> > can buy a netbook and screen reading software.
> >
> > I am not trying to convince people that the BS AND VS ARE NOT WORTH > > WHILE > > DEVICES. I love my VS FOR WHAT IT IS, AND HAVE RECOMMENDED IT TO > > MANY > > OTHER PEOPLE. However, I have recommended other devices after > > assessing a
> > person's needs.
> >
> > Keep in mind that the more features that get packed into a device > > will
> > raise the price.
> >
> > Annette
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Joseph Lee [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:08 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [GWN] Braille Sense and its limits
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi folks,
> > Nice to see a steady flow of suggestions about Braille sense. Some of > > them > > included foreign language support, word count and so forth. Although > > they > > were good ones, one needs to consider if it is worth it to put it on > > a > > device that has technical limits. Not that I am saying that BS FAMILY > > HAS
> > OUTWARD LIMITS, BUT IN TERMS OF SPECS AND OS, IT DOES HAVE LIMITS.
> > First, as mike said, Braille Sense  is a PDA. In other words, Braille
> > Sense is meant to be PC COMPANION, NOT A PC REPLACEMENT (ALTHOUGH > > I've > > seen some people mistaken it for such). In other words, not all > > things > > that can be done on a computer cannot be done under Braille Sense. > > For > > instance, not all websites that a Windows XP MACHINE CAN HANDLE > > CANNOT BE
> > NAVIGATED USING Braille Sense.
> > On the hardware side, the line between PC AND PDA IS BECOMING LESS
> > DIFFERENTIATED - AT LEAST WHEN BS IS CONCERNED. Braille Sense has one > > of > > the good processors for mobile devices, as well as sufficient memory > > to > > run applications and store useful data. But in terms of software > > side, it > > is not. Braille Sense runs under Windows CE - NOT REGULAR Wihndows, > > folks.
> > Windows CE IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OS ARCHITECTURE THAN Windows NT
> > FAMILY. Thus, it has limits, such as 32 MB OF VIRTUAL MEMORY AND 32
> > PROCESS LIMIT (THIS IS THE REASON WHY BS WOULD ONLY ALLOW SEVEN > > PROGRAMS > > MAXIMUM). As for virtual memory, I need solid evidence of things such > > as > > browser crashing or other slow downs before explaining what exactly > > it is
> > and its limits (if demands requires me to, but right now I am going
> > through summer school in college).
> > Also, as I have stressed on another list, writing code for embedded
> > devices such as Braille Sense carries different requirements. One > > needs to > > be careful about memory usage, processor architecture and so forth. > > Just > > because we imagine things in our heads and pray that it will appear > > out of
> > nowhere does not mean that it will happen soon - one needs to plan,
> > compose, debug, recompile and release the software (if stable enough)
> > numerous times before a suggestion or feature request will work > > properly. > > Also, it seems that the manual is wrong about type of USB PORT. > > Braille > > Sense does NOT HAVE USB OTG (On-the-go) technology at all. All it has > > are
> > one USB HOST AND ONE USB CLIENT, T's all. If it had OTG PORT,
> > THEORETICALLY Braille Sense can work with two USB CLIENT DEVICES AT > > ONCE - > > ONE ON BS's own uSB HOST PORT, ANOTHER ONE ON THE USB CLIENT PORT > > WITH A
> > DEDICATED ADAPTER.
> > As to what USB OTG STANDARD IS, I'll compose the article in question > > when > > there is enough demand. For those who have seen me on other lists, > > you
> > would know what OTG IS AND MY ARTICLE STYLE...
> > Cheers,
> > Joseph P.S. Alex, do you agree with me on this one?
>


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