Yes, but crochet needles usually are very, very fine and pointy. That's what
they use for tambour work, because they need to pierece through fabric. Not
at all like like the ones we use for crocheting.
The problem here is that we're dealing with a translation, not with an
evolution of English. The book was dated 1980, but the info came from
sources in another language which I couldn't identify. Knitting terms
haven't evolved that much since 1980, but a LOT can be lost in translation.
And, from what I heard, naalbinding looks very similar to knitting. Just
looking at a picture of the item might not be enough to differentiate
between knitting, crochet and naalbinding.
We weren't making any judgements. Just saying that there were some weirdly
formulated things in the text that would make it preferable to reserve
judgement about the validity of the text.
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From: "Lavolta Press" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] early Knitting and crochet
I've seen the term "crochet needle" in English-language 19th-century
crochet instructions, as a synonym for "crochet hook."
BTW< I also just came across an early 19th-century reference to "knitting
wires," for stockings, which I believe just means fine knitting needles.
While I'm all in favor of giving things the correct terms, it is important
to recognize that languages just naturally use different names for the
same thing and the same name for different things. This is especially
true when you're dealing with older versus modern English, and with a
field like fashion, where makers and promoters of various goods
intentionally apply a new name to the same old product or style just to
make it seem more fashionable.
If I were trying to judge whether a textile was crocheted or knitted or
whatever, I'd look at a photo or drawing of it (the original probably not
being available to me), before making any judgments.
Fran
Lavolta Press
http://www.lavoltapress.com
Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote:
were crochetted with a small bone needle."
Crochet cannot be done with any kind of needle. Sorry, but your source
must have been written by someone who doesn't know knit from crochet.
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