Thanks for that, it may be a better option than trunkhose with fitted canions. The image he chose is a modern costume http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/739/157308.JPG but given it's going to be worn to a camping event, it's most likely going to be made of cotton drill and I won't actually see him to fit them on him before he needs to wear them Gally hosen sounds like a good option if I can persuade him (or his mother, she doesn't like the look of Venetians so I'm not sure how she will feel about this) that it's a good idea. Thanks Elizabeth
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Margaret Roe <[email protected]> wrote: > Elizabeth, > > I'm afraid that French Hose (aka pumpkin pants) were normally paned. I > think what your customer may really want is Galley Hose. Galley Hose were > full breeches, not paned or stuffed, that ended just above the knee. They > were usually gathered into a band that could be covered in braid or lace or > were sometimes with tied garters above or across the knee. They were > different from French Hose in that they were neither paned nor stuffed, and > had no canons (that's usually the dead giveaway earlier), though most were > made of such stiff fabrics that they may as well have been stuffed. On the > other hand, they differed from Venetians by ending above the knee, rather > than below it. In the mid-sixteenth century, Galley Hose were seen more on > the middle and lower classes, but by the first quarter of the next century, > Galley Hose had replaced French Hose on the upper class and began to adopt > canons. > > Two good images of Galley Hose are > http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/Workman.jpg and > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Edward_Herbert_1st_Baron_Herbert_of_Cherbury_by_Isaac_Oliver.jpg. > > I hope that helps, > Margaret > > > > > > > > > I've been asked to help a friend make a pair of Elizabethan trunkhose (aka > punpkin pants) and they have requested plain single layer trunkhose but all > the extant examples of single layer (instead of panes with the lining > pulled > out through the slashes) in Patterns of Fashion are post 1600. So far I've > not been able to find a pictorial or extant example of pre 1600 plain > trunkhose (despite the number of examples I see in this style in modern > costuming) I'm not going to actually make a pair of paned trunkhose (as > this > plus a doublet have to be complete by Easter) but I would like to know > whether it is period or a reenactorism. > Any leads on period examples of non paned trunkhose would be greatly > appreciated. > Thanks > Elizabeth > > > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
