In the interest of this discussion...I would like to ask a companion question. Although one is only seeing pictures and remnants of the Paned hose with the "slits", all of these are from and depict folks who are in a position to be wearing the top of the line trend, nes pas?the aristocracy/nobility? are there any pictures of the middle class in working stuff? Those are the people who probably did not have enough "extra cash " to be posing for portraits and be buried in crypts that when opend 400 years later, would have bits for the likes of the dear departed Janet Arnold to have looked at, handled and written up in one of her pattern books? I dont know, I have been made very curious though by this discussion Bambi (To be named later) TBNL .
I am made for great things by GOD and walk with Pride!!!! Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad see me dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HMtOoXtMs0 ________________________________ From: Wanda Pease <[email protected]> To: Historical Costume <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 6:03:04 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] non paned trunkhose pre 1600 I've been reading Mistress Blanche: Queen Elizabeth 1's Confidante. The cover picture is the one titled: Queen Elizabeth greeting the Dutch Emissaries. In the background there is a woman the author tentatively identifies as Blanche standing next to a Gentleman in gray whom she identifies as Sir Christopher Hatton. Although his "pumpkin pants" appear to be made up of panes, there isn't lining showing through, nor does the lining show on the other men you can see in the picture. I wonder if the panes might have actually been sewed together like that for shaping purposes? I do recommend the book for those interested in the people in Elizabeth's life. Mistress Blanche (she is given that title in letters to her and about her during her lifetime which is an interesting item of SCA type information - that Mistress could be considered a proper title for a highly placed and born woman.) Regina Romsey > From: Elizabeth Walpole<[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [h-cost] non paned trunkhose pre 1600 > Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:37:35 +1100 > > Good evening all, > > I've been asked to help a friend make a pair of Elizabethan trunkhose (aka > punpkin pants) and they have requested plain single layer trunkhose but all > the extant examples of single layer (instead of panes with the lining pulled > out through the slashes) in Patterns of Fashion are post 1600. So far I've > not been able to find a pictorial or extant example of pre 1600 plain > trunkhose (despite the number of examples I see in this style in modern > costuming) I'm not going to actually make a pair of paned trunkhose (as this > plus a doublet have to be complete by Easter) but I would like to know > whether it is period or a reenactorism. > Any leads on period examples of non paned trunkhose would be greatly > appreciated. > Thanks > Elizabeth > __________________ > _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
