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Margaret, you just helped me clear up my question...thank you!!!!!


On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Margaret Roe <[email protected]> wrote:

> Elizabeth,
>
> I'm afraid that French Hose (aka pumpkin pants) were normally paned.  I
> think what your customer may really want is Galley Hose.  Galley Hose were
> full breeches, not paned or stuffed, that ended just above the knee.  They
> were usually gathered into a band that could be covered in braid or lace or
> were sometimes with tied garters above or across the knee.  They were
> different from French Hose in that they were neither paned nor stuffed, and
> had no canons (that's usually the dead giveaway earlier), though most were
> made of such stiff fabrics that they may as well have been stuffed.  On the
> other hand, they differed from Venetians by ending above the knee, rather
> than below it.  In the mid-sixteenth century, Galley Hose were seen more on
> the middle and lower classes, but by the first quarter of the next century,
> Galley Hose had replaced French Hose on the upper class and began to adopt
> canons.
>
> Two good images of Galley Hose are
> http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/Workman.jpg and
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Edward_Herbert_1st_Baron_Herbert_of_Cherbury_by_Isaac_Oliver.jpg.
>
> I hope that helps,
> Margaret
>
> > > > > >
>
> I've been asked to help a friend make a pair of Elizabethan trunkhose (aka
> punpkin pants) and they have requested plain single layer trunkhose but all
> the extant examples of single layer (instead of panes with the lining
> pulled
> out through the slashes) in Patterns of Fashion are post 1600. So far I've
> not been able to find a pictorial or extant example of pre 1600 plain
> trunkhose (despite the number of examples I see in this style in modern
> costuming) I'm not going to actually make a pair of paned trunkhose (as
> this
> plus a doublet have to be complete by Easter) but I would like to know
> whether it is period or a reenactorism.
> Any leads on period examples of non paned trunkhose would be greatly
> appreciated.
> Thanks
> Elizabeth
>
>
>
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