Owen, thank you for explaining the background of the habari and the logo. I
think it would be very useful to put it up on the wiki somewhere (under
'What does "habari" mean?' section, maybe).

This story of a town crier is really nice and clever and I wish I had known
it before. It could be a very useful part for habari marketing, I think. The
connection with old times seems really positive somehow.

Here is my final typographical attempt. No more buttons :)
http://konstruktors.com/notes/_media/habari-logo-5.jpg

Regards,
Kaspars



On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Owen Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Chris Meller wrote:
> >
> > Hopefully Owen or someone else can chime in with the story about the 'h'
> > here.
>
> Simply put, the idea spawned from the concept of "spreading the news"
> like a town crier would.  Town criers often rang hand bells to bring
> community attention to what they have to say.  We wanted the logo not to
> be just a bell, but also incorporate the name somehow.  So I took an "h"
> shape and made it look as much like a bell as I could.
>
> I know that people "don't see it", but that's the explanation.  There
> are plenty of other logos in the world where you just accept it for what
> it is, even if you don't know the story or "don't see it" or have an
> inexplicable disdain for "glyphs".  I'm unsure why this one has been met
> with so much scorn.  Oh, well.
>
> Regarding the logo ideas presented in this thread so far, one thought I
> have is that if you can create the logo entirely with HTML, it's
> probably not unique enough.
>
> The word I would most like to describe Habari's logo is "clever".  The
> word I would least like to describe Habari's logo is "typographical".
>
> The idea of putting the name of the software into a "button" is
> interesting, but this look doesn't try to convey what Habari is about,
> just minimally what one component Habari might contain.
>
> My feeling has always been that keying anything like a logo - something
> we would expect to durably represent our brand - to the look of the
> volatile software or public site design is a misstep.  For the same
> reason I think that the public site shouldn't necessarily emphatically
> eternally share the look of the software, a logo that borrows its look
> from our admin would be indelibly tied to that look.  If our admin
> changes, should the logo change?  (As in the case of our public site,
> are we resigned to never freshen the look of the site based on having an
> admin design grounded in good user experience?)  Won't the logo look odd
> if we decide to change the site design in the future?  I really don't
> want to leave our brand identity to flutter with the whim of the public
> site design.
>
> As I said earlier, the exclusively typographical logos don't do anything
> for me.  In particular, the text now at the top of our home page has the
> syllables of the word broken in the wrong place.  Careful inspection of
> this by visitors might make us seem a tad moronic.
>
> Please don't take any of this as me saying that the existing logo
> accomplishes all of what I like.  It does not.  But I'm not willing to
> merely suffice with something else.  Until it does those things or is a
> particularly stand-out design, I think we should reserve our changes.
>
> I appreciate the effort on the logo so far.  I don't mean to discourage
> anyone from continuing, since few people share my opinion on this topic
> anyway, and a good logo is likely to come from an unlikely place.  What
> I will do is provide what I'm looking for in a logo (above), and
> hopefully shield myself against another influx of logos that just try to
> look nice but not hold any meaning.
>
> Owen
>
>
>
> >
>

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