On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Arthus Erea <[email protected]> wrote:
> As far as I am concerned, r3340 is a reasonable solution.
> Not every link has to be underlined for people to know it a link. Common
> sense allows people to figure out that a UI element is usually a link.
> Links in text should be differentiated. They now are.

yes, not every link should be underlined.

> As far as I am concerned, the current implementation is fine for dashboard
> modules is fine. It's a nice little additional functionality for "power"
> users.
> If you don't know the headings are links, it doesn't hurt you and the
> interface works fine. If you figure out they are, you find a nice little set
> of shortcuts.
> I think any net user is familiar with the idea of not all links being
> underlined. A plethora of popular sites don't underline obvious links, yet
> people use them fine.
> Human beings aren't robots. We have brains which allow us to reason that
> headings and ui elements are links.

"power users"? how do I become that? Which badge do I need?

yes, humans are not robots.

Things are fine? that's fine. But, if you are telling me that the
admin interface should never change cause it's fine, then I have a
problem. Matt mentioned something very import, "I'd suggest not
linking module headers in any case, but instead have an optional
'more' link.". The start of a standard.

If we have a consistent standard for the admin UI, and we follow it,
then it would give the admin interface a much more inform
functionality and usability. I beileive we already have the start of
this standard, the Monolith HIG? can we use this?


...From IRC (you can ignore this part, I couldn't resist)...

"so long as nobody listens to the last -dev post, we're fine"

That's fine.

"I'm calling him an idiot for not being able to even contemplate that
something might be a link even if its not underlined"

I know where every link is cause I've used the admin interface
forever. But looking at it as the idiot I am, I still find hard to
distinguish what is, and what is not a link (or a clickable UI element
that preforms an action). In the manage posts page, I constantly try
and click the row of each post to select them (as I do with desktop
apps, like evolution) with no luck. I always click the 'edit' in the
dropdown (never knew I could click the title to edit it). In comments
when I click the 'title part' it does nothing... Hmm, we need some way
to have a standard interface...

"I don't think we should expect people who can't use nytimes.com to use Habari"

I do computer support and work with people who still double click
links and buttons. Even worse is the new Vista links things on the
top. Some of these user, that can't grasp that concept, do actually
blog. So yes, we should expect people who can't use nytimes.com to use
Habari. I doubt we will acheive this though...


But, it's fine.

-- 
Matt Read
http://mattread.com

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