On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Adir Abraham wrote:
> We've already discussed most of the issues, but let's have a reminder.
>
> On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I think that in future installation parties we should simply mandate that
> > people who wish to install their systems will either:
> >
> > 1. Buy a set of CDs from us.
>
> They already do it. However, they don't have to do it.
>
Right, and I want them to have to do it, so it will simplify matters for
us.
> > 2. Bring one from home, so we can install it for them.
>
> Bringing one from home is no good, unless they bring the exact
> distribution(s) that we support. We can't do a "choose your distribution"
> party because it will cause a mess, unless someone really wants to try
> controlling anarchy. It won't happen in the regular instaparties that we have.
>
Eifhr.
> > 3. Wouldn't mind downloading extra packages from the Internet using urpmi,
> > apt, yum, or whatever.
>
> You assume that the person: 1) will know how to update (including all
> sorts of dependancies). 2) will bother to update. 3) has fast connection to
> the Internet. No, it's not a good idea.
>
Yes, it is. There were a few updates for RedHat 9.0 since the last
instaparty, and if the people who installed the computers did not update,
there systems are vulnerable now. We can't escape the fact that we cannot
leave the newcomers at a clueless stage. Cluelessness doesn't work when
dealing with computers.
> > This will make sure we can install a minimal or default system which will
> > take less time, and will cause us less aggravations. It will also be good
> > for the installees because they will be able to customize their system
> > and install missing components, a posteriori.
>
> They will not want to install missing components.. You assume that they
> know how to install, and you assume that they want to install. You don't
> understand that WE are the ones who need to give the kickstarts (in
> addition to lectures, etc). Because if they could do all that, we wouldn't
> be needed. Fact is, that the instaparties are needed, and people still
> need them to ask questions and install Linux. Our mission is to give them
> a wide-use machine, working with Linux.
>
We have to teach them how to install stuff on their own! Many people are
able to install stuff for Windows as well, as a pristine Windows machine
does not come with all the required components. (it doesn't come up with
anything that isn't Microsoft). Installing things is not so hard.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Shlomi Fish
> >
> >
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