On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Adir Abraham wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>
> > decide I said that from my message). I said we are going to use
> > default/minimal setup and give them the CDs.
>
> The default should have many applications inside. We can't, and we
> shouldn't give the installee a minimal installation (unless we don't have
> another choice. For instance - storage reasons, or he knows in advance
> that it's going to be a server. In this case, we might want to minimize
> the installation). The installee should have a machine with many applications
> that we can use. He'll get a fully installed desktop machine, and from there
> (after some reading), he can choose what he likes to do with it.
>
> > Given that, your entire message is moot. And installing 5GB takes a lot of
> > time as we all witnessed during the last Installation Party. I don't want
> > to do it again.
>
> In average, it takes about a hour to start and finish a full installation
> on a Celeron or Duron machine @ 1200MHz (I did those checks before the
> instaparty and I had the pleasure to install to such a machine in the
> instaparty itself). Ofcourse - if we don't have any special problems
> during the installation itself (hardware mismatch and other weird
> problems), and it goes smooth. You can conclude what happens with faster
> machines or those that include rich hardware features. I also assume that
> we'll have faster machines next year, so it will not take more than 40
> minutes in average. So, 5GB doesn't sound so big, anymore.
>
Some installations I've been at took several hours, (seriously), as they
were on underpowered computers. The updating of the updates also took
forever. And it barely fit on the hard-disk and filled in the partition
with zsh and other useless software.
Even one hour may be too long.
> > BTW, my friend who is a newbie, had installed RedHat 9.0 on his own. The
> > Internet works, but otherwise he has tons of trouble and thing don't work.
> > I suggest we never install RedHat/Fedore again.
>
> RedHat 9.0 had many problems, I agree. But from that, going so far to
> "never install RedHat/Fedore again" ?!
>
Mandrake is a much superior distribution to RedHat.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
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