I propose OS club. Not all Computer Science in general (for that me have the faculty, right?) >B) Gabi's approach - it's all about knowledge - anything goes Not everything. Only OS and OS related (networking in OS is of course related (not routing protocols, but OS implementation of sockets for example) , Virtualization is related, Distributed is partly related. Crypto - I am not sure is very much related, but if you think it is - OK. Bioinformatics for example is for sure not related). Gabi
_____ From: Orr Dunkelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:16 PM To: gabik Cc: Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda; Eli Billauer; Haifa Linux Club; Muli Ben-Yehuda; boazg Subject: Re: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux There are three ways to treat haifux: A) A FOSS/Linux club (an interesting debate on its own) - anything which is not FOSS or Linux-related is discouraged, as it's not in the "charter" B) Gabi's approach - it's all about knowledge - anything goes C) the golden ratio, where we usually are A, but if something vaguely related to Linux but really interesting comes up, we're B. I think that A is very restrictive, especially if windows drivers have to do with Linux. B is very problematic as well, especially as it just makes haifux a platform for courses in computers. This is not the aim of haifux. We are not haifumputers, we're haifux. C is of course the best way, given that we know when to "bend the rules". How do we know when to bend the rules a little? if many haifuxers say it is OK, then I think it is OK (a common method in Judaism and Islam - if many believers do that, it can't be that bad). On 4/10/07, gabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > I don't quite see how a talk about a proprietary OS fits Haifux's charter? Orna wrote: > As I see it, Haifux is not an "OS club". When the idea of having a lecture about Windows drivers was brought up, I (and others) >objected for the same reason. I was very surprised to read this and would like to comment. First, I want to say that I do not feel that I have any right to tell you how to run Haifux, since I did nothing till far to establish or contribute to it. So I would only like to express my humble opinion on this, please. It is my personal opinion of how Haifux++ can be better than Haifux. Why free/not free, open source/not open source becomes a value by itself? Is it really so important that you are not ready to hear (not use) an interesting lecture about Windows? By turning it into a "moral" value, you make Linux a religion, which I assume you don't want to do. Is not it all about KNOWLEDGE? I am personally VERY much interested in Windows drivers and would very much like to hear such a lecture. AIX is goins without saying. I also propose (just propose, please don't kill me) to turn Haifux into an "OS club". This is how I considered it to be till now. Best, Gabi Kliot -----Original Message----- From: Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 6:43 PM To: Eli Billauer Cc: Haifa Linux Club; Muli Ben-Yehuda; boazg Subject: Re: [Haifux] lecture proposal On Thu, 5 Apr 2007, Eli Billauer wrote: > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:51:13 +0200 > From: Eli Billauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Haifa Linux Club < haifux@haifux.org> > Cc: Muli Ben-Yehuda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, boazg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Haifux] lecture proposal > > Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > >> I don't quite see how a talk about a proprietary OS fits Haifux's >> charter? >> >> > Lecture #79: Random numbers > Lecure #81: Multilingual typesetting > Lecture #95: Hebrew fonts > Lecture #114-SIL: Intro to Alice, Bob and Eve: a glimpse of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Haifux' charter has always been that if there's an audience, there's a > lecture. > > Eli > > There is a difference between general computer science topics, such as random numbers (btw, at the end of the lecture, /dev/random and /dev/urandom were discussed) and proprietary software. The Hebrew fonts were released under a free license, and are needed in order to view MS documents on a Linux system. The typesetting lecture was a broader topic of TeX, FOSS. We also hosted a lecture about CC. As I see it, Haifux is not an "OS club". When the idea of having a lecture about Windows drivers was brought up, I (and others) objected for the same reason. I think lecture 6 is the only totally proprietary lecture we had, and this was indeed before my time. Orna. -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda http://ladypine.org/ ICQ: 348759096 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List ( <http://www.haifux.org> http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Orr Dunkelman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Any human thing supposed to be complete, must for that reason infallibly be faulty" -- Herman Melville, Moby Dick. Spammers: http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~orrd/spam.html GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys.)
