I think this is far from being the aim for Haifux. I recall the reason was to have a place where Linux developers can meet and work together...
We've gone quite a way from there, but we are after all Haifux. Any lecture which is on advocating Linux, or even on user space experience in Linux (who wants to give a lecture about Gnome vs. KDE vs. the rest of the world?) is more than welcome. I'm not sure we are the forum for all OS related stuff. This is not the intention, and if we start to discuss only aspects related to OSes in Kernel level - I think we will no longer be called Haifux, but HaifOS. Just my 2 euro cents, Orr. On 4/10/07, gabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I propose OS club. Not all Computer Science in general (for that me have the faculty, right?) >B) Gabi's approach - it's all about knowledge - anything goes Not everything. Only OS and OS related (networking in OS is of course related (not routing protocols, but OS implementation of sockets for example) , Virtualization is related, Distributed is partly related. Crypto - I am not sure is very much related, but if you think it is - OK. Bioinformatics for example is for sure not related). Gabi ------------------------------ *From:* Orr Dunkelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:16 PM *To:* gabik *Cc:* Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda; Eli Billauer; Haifa Linux Club; Muli Ben-Yehuda; boazg *Subject:* Re: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux There are three ways to treat haifux: A) A FOSS/Linux club (an interesting debate on its own) - anything which is not FOSS or Linux-related is discouraged, as it's not in the "charter" B) Gabi's approach - it's all about knowledge - anything goes C) the golden ratio, where we usually are A, but if something vaguely related to Linux but really interesting comes up, we're B. I think that A is very restrictive, especially if windows drivers have to do with Linux. B is very problematic as well, especially as it just makes haifux a platform for courses in computers. This is not the aim of haifux. We are not haifumputers, we're haifux. C is of course the best way, given that we know when to "bend the rules". How do we know when to bend the rules a little? if many haifuxers say it is OK, then I think it is OK (a common method in Judaism and Islam - if many believers do that, it can't be that bad). On 4/10/07, gabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi > > Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > > > I don't quite see how a talk about a proprietary OS fits Haifux's > charter? > > Orna wrote: > > As I see it, Haifux is not an "OS club". When the idea of having a > lecture > about Windows drivers was brought up, I (and others) > >objected for the same reason. > > > I was very surprised to read this and would like to comment. > > First, I want to say that I do not feel that I have any right to tell > you > how to run Haifux, since I did nothing till far to establish or > contribute > to it. So I would only like to express my humble opinion on this, > please. It > is my personal opinion of how Haifux++ can be better than Haifux. > > > Why free/not free, open source/not open source becomes a value by > itself? Is > it really so important that you are not ready to hear (not use) an > interesting lecture about Windows? By turning it into a "moral" value, > you > make Linux a religion, which I assume you don't want to do. > > > Is not it all about KNOWLEDGE? > > > I am personally VERY much interested in Windows drivers and would very > much > like to hear such a lecture. AIX is goins without saying. > I also propose (just propose, please don't kill me) to turn Haifux into > an > "OS club". This is how I considered it to be till now. > > Best, > > Gabi Kliot > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 6:43 PM > To: Eli Billauer > Cc: Haifa Linux Club; Muli Ben-Yehuda; boazg > Subject: Re: [Haifux] lecture proposal > > On Thu, 5 Apr 2007, Eli Billauer wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:51:13 +0200 > > From: Eli Billauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Haifa Linux Club < haifux@haifux.org> > > Cc: Muli Ben-Yehuda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, boazg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [Haifux] lecture proposal > > > > Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > > > >> I don't quite see how a talk about a proprietary OS fits Haifux's > >> charter? > >> > >> > > Lecture #79: Random numbers > > Lecure #81: Multilingual typesetting > > Lecture #95: Hebrew fonts > > Lecture #114-SIL: Intro to Alice, Bob and Eve: a glimpse of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Haifux' charter has always been that if there's an audience, there's a > > lecture. > > > > Eli > > > > > > There is a difference between general computer science topics, such as > random numbers (btw, at the end of the lecture, /dev/random and > /dev/urandom > were discussed) and proprietary software. > > The Hebrew fonts were released under a free license, and are needed in > order > to view MS documents on a Linux system. The typesetting lecture was a > broader topic of TeX, FOSS. We also hosted a lecture about CC. > > As I see it, Haifux is not an "OS club". When the idea of having a > lecture > about Windows drivers was brought up, I (and others) objected for the > same > reason. > > I think lecture 6 is the only totally proprietary lecture we had, and > this > was indeed before my time. > > Orna. > -- > Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda http://ladypine.org/ > ICQ: 348759096 > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an > empty > message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Haifa Linux Club Mailing List ( http://www.haifux.org) > To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Orr Dunkelman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Any human thing supposed to be complete, must for that reason infallibly be faulty" -- Herman Melville, Moby Dick. Spammers: http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~orrd/spam.html<http://vipe.technion.ac.il/%7Eorrd/spam.html> GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys.)
-- Orr Dunkelman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Any human thing supposed to be complete, must for that reason infallibly be faulty" -- Herman Melville, Moby Dick. Spammers: http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~orrd/spam.html GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys.)
