On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 04:32:55PM +0200, Ghislain wrote: > hi, > > this is not spam but some bad behavior of a person that is > inscribing the mail of this mailing list to newsletter just to annoy > people. > This guy must be laughing like mad about how such a looser he is but > no spam filter will prevent this, there is no filter against human > stupidity that is legal in our country.
That's precisely the point unfortunately :-/ And the other annoying part are those recurring claims from people who know better than anyone else and who pretend that they can magically run a mail server with no spam. That's simply nonsense and utterly false. Or they have such aggressive filters that they can't even receive the complaints from their users when mails are eaten. Everyone can do that, it's enough to alias [email protected] to /dev/null to get the same effect! But the goal of the ML is not to block the maximum amount of spam but to ensure optimal delivery to its subscribers. As soon as you add some level of filtering, you automatically get some increasing amount of false positive. We even had to drop one filter a few months ago because some gmail users could not post anymore. I'm open to suggestions, provided that : 1) it doesn't add *any* burden on our side (scalability means that the processing should be distributed, not centralized) 2) it doesn't block any single valid e-mail, even from non-subscriber 3) it doesn't require anyone to resubscribe nor change their ingress filters to get the mails into the same box. 4) it doesn't add extra delays to posts (eg: no grey-listing) because that's really painful for people who post patches and are impatient to see them reach the ML. I'm always amazed how people are anonyed with spam in 2014. Spam is part of the internet experience and is so ubiquitous that I think these people have been living under a rock. Probably those people consider that we should also run blood tests on people who want to jump into a bus to ensure that they don't come in with any minor disease in hope that all diseases will finally disappear. I'm instead in the camp of those who consider that training the population is the best resistance, and I think that all living being history already proved me right. I probably received 5 more spams while writing this, and who cares! Best regards, Willy
