I think most of us are getting soft being gmail users. I haven't seen this amount of spam in my inbox today, probably in years. Personally, I would go with an automated sub/unsub list. People who need help will usually take the effort to subscribe to a list, so I'm not sure what the advantage is of having an open list. It's like having an open smtp relay. I think at the very least implementing DNSBL might help (at least for the spam received today) if you decide not to go the subscription route...
-Alex On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Willy Tarreau <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 04:32:55PM +0200, Ghislain wrote: > > hi, > > > > this is not spam but some bad behavior of a person that is > > inscribing the mail of this mailing list to newsletter just to annoy > > people. > > This guy must be laughing like mad about how such a looser he is but > > no spam filter will prevent this, there is no filter against human > > stupidity that is legal in our country. > > That's precisely the point unfortunately :-/ > > And the other annoying part are those recurring claims from people who > know better than anyone else and who pretend that they can magically run > a mail server with no spam. That's simply nonsense and utterly false. Or > they have such aggressive filters that they can't even receive the > complaints > from their users when mails are eaten. Everyone can do that, it's enough > to alias [email protected] to /dev/null to get the same effect! > > But the goal of the ML is not to block the maximum amount of spam but to > ensure optimal delivery to its subscribers. As soon as you add some level > of filtering, you automatically get some increasing amount of false > positive. > > We even had to drop one filter a few months ago because some gmail users > could not post anymore. > > I'm open to suggestions, provided that : > > 1) it doesn't add *any* burden on our side (scalability means that the > processing should be distributed, not centralized) > > 2) it doesn't block any single valid e-mail, even from non-subscriber > > 3) it doesn't require anyone to resubscribe nor change their ingress > filters to get the mails into the same box. > > 4) it doesn't add extra delays to posts (eg: no grey-listing) because > that's really painful for people who post patches and are impatient > to see them reach the ML. > > I'm always amazed how people are anonyed with spam in 2014. Spam is part > of the internet experience and is so ubiquitous that I think these people > have been living under a rock. Probably those people consider that we > should also run blood tests on people who want to jump into a bus to > ensure that they don't come in with any minor disease in hope that all > diseases will finally disappear. I'm instead in the camp of those who > consider that training the population is the best resistance, and I think > that all living being history already proved me right. > > I probably received 5 more spams while writing this, and who cares! > > Best regards, > Willy > > >
