On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 04:08:11PM -0400, Patrick Hemmer wrote: > *From: *Cyril Bonté <[email protected]> > *Sent: * 2014-09-05 15:50:21 EDT > *To: *Patrick Hemmer <[email protected]>, Willy Tarreau > <[email protected]>, Ghislain <[email protected]> > *CC: *Mark Janssen <[email protected]>, david rene comba lareu > <[email protected]>, Colin Ingarfield <[email protected]>, > [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: Spam to this list? > > > Hi, > > > > Le 05/09/2014 20:39, Patrick Hemmer a écrit : > >> Obviously quite a few people care. > >> This is your list, and I respect that, but your opinion seems to be the > >> minority. > > > > Without facts, this is as true as if I argue that the majority doesn't > > care that much but are more annoyed by the amount of mails containing > > the subject "Spam to this list?". > > > > > > Ah, but your facts are in the discussion thread. I've seen very few > people supporting the current state of things.
Numbers here aren't on your side : # cat subscribers.d/*|wc -l 830 830 persons are currently subscribed to this list, 22 of which have posted in this thread, with some not even sharing your opinion. So that's about 98% which is hardly "very few" by my standards. FWIW, I've noticed that there is actually *more* spam than what I do receive, simply because my trivial procmail filters catch about half of it. I'll see if I find a way to port them to postfix in order to reduce this amount for everyone to the level I'm seeing on my side. Now please let me remind me something important : this list is provided for free to make it easier for developers and users to exchange together. It's managed on spare time, it's fast and free to subscribe just like it's fast and free to unsubscribe. Some users do indeed subscribe, participate to a thread then unsubscribe. There have been about 3 times more subscriptions than current subscribers, many of which coming back from time to time. So for people for whom this amount of spam is a terrible experience, there are a lot of options. However when you're on the service side of things, options to fight spam *always* come from extra burden dealing with false positives. So the situation is clearly far from being perfect, but it used to be reasonably well balanced for 7 years now. Only very recently we started to get subscribed to several lists and probably the address has better circulated to spammers resulting in an increase in the amount of spam. But I certainly won't spend as much time dealing with anti-spam problems as I already spent in this sterile thread. Willy
