This seems to be a very good idea. Perhaps some of you remember the (succesful) attempt of Dr. Wakai to integrate Mumps and Prolog when Japan tried to make Prolog the core of the fifth generation computer. One could use non procedural programming within a procedural environment (or the other way around).
Pathon indeed in many aspects is so similar to M that the question is allowed: Why did M not play the role of Python? We would have Zope and Plone and VistA ... Wolfgang Giere Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > This is the approach I would like to see go forward. > Build on the work of others rather than reinvent the > wheel. > > Kevin > > --- Tom Munnecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Has anyone looked at Python? It looks like a > > nearest neighbor to > > MUMPS, with lots of similarities. I has an > > interesting dictionary > > capability, handles strings well, and a very strong > > object model. > > What about embedding M in Python? > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:41:10 -0800 (PST), Jim Self > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Terry L. Wiechmann wrote: > > > >If the community is going to revive the > > standardization process, it better > > > >have a 'vision' beyond the Millennium Standard. > > > > > > I am excited to think that things may be moving in > > that direction, but I think that > > > revival of a MUMPS standardization process may be > > premature. It must be balanced against > > > an active culture of innovation and language > > development that would otherwise result in > > > divergence and vendor lock-in. > > > > > > We have a beginning foundation for that in the > > existence of several open source > > > implementations of mumps, but so far it seems that > > very few people are involved in > > > innovation at the language level, even to the > > point of informally discussing language > > > enhancements for experimental implementation. > > > > > > >The fact is MUMPS is > > > >perceived as an old procedural language. It's > > viewed as dead by the > > > >'outside' world. > > > > > > Before GT.M was released for GNU/Linux MUMPS > > seemed very close to dead for many of the > > > rest of us as well. > > > > > > >If you want to get new blood involved, the goals > > for the > > > >language will have to show an evolution towards > > what the rest of the world > > > >wants, not what makes the existing MUMPS > > community comfortable. > > > > > > I agree with this to some extent. People who care > > about long term viability of a MUMPS > > > community must find and embrace a path to enabling > > new applications and ways of doing > > > things with existing applications that includes > > easy coexistence and cooperation with > > > applications and parts of applications written in > > other languages. > > > > > > The main thing that needs to be shown to new > > people is evidence of compelling value in > > > learning MUMPS and committing the time and effort > > to building new applications and in > > > extending and fixing old ones to fit with newer > > technologies - especially the web. > > > > > > >Its future > > > >must be viewed as in step with existing > > technologies. Without climbing into > > > >the pulpit, I think everyone knows the direction > > it must take :-) > > > > > > Yes, indeed, but there may be more than one. ;-) > > The obvious need in my view is for > > > language features to facilitate development of web > > based applications and an easy mix with > > > other programming languages and OS features. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > Jim Self > > > Systems Architect, Lead Developer > > > VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis > > > (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > > Products from real users. > > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. > > Start reading now. > > > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > > Products from real users. > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. > > Start reading now. > > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! > http://my.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. 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