Well after a few hours today I couldn't get this to work because I
couldn't load the wonderful file you created. For whatever reason I
couldn't get the HFS device to write to the file system (standard ext3
sitting on a RAID 10 system of new SATA disk drives). I did learn more
about the whole w/r and I/O subsystems and how they relate to the
underlying OS with VistA- so at least that was helpful. 

I made sure the default HFS file in the kernel site parameter file matched
that of the user running GTM - still no go. I also discovered the VAFC
HFS option 

NUMBER: 9347                            NAME: VAFC HFS SETUP
  MENU TEXT: HFS Device Setup           TYPE: run routine
  CREATOR: SCHLEHUBER,CAMERON
 DESCRIPTION:   This option is used to set up the PARAMETER DEFINITION
 (#8989.51) and PARAMETERS (#8989.5) files to read, write, and delete reports
 to a Host File Server (HFS) file.  In the setup, the directory NAME (#.01)
 field should contain a directory location that is wide open (read, write,
 edit, and delete) to all.  If these files are not set up, the inbound requests
 will default to the working Broker Server directory which may or may not have
 enough privileges to allow a remote system to pull the necessary information.
 Please check to see that your directory has the appropriate privileges.

  VMS example code to check privileges:
  A2$dir aij$:[000000]tcp$spool.dir /own/prot
     Directory AIJ$:[000000]
     TCP$SPOOL.DIR;1      [SYSTEM] (RWED,RWED,RWED,RWED)
  ROUTINE: CREATE^VAFCHFS               UPPERCASE MENU TEXT: HFS DEVICE SETUP

Using this didn't change things.  

Now the problem could have been that the standard GTM-UNIX-HFS device file was 
not present in this last GTM release, and I am not sure if just creating one, 
or using
the included "HFS" device will do. I am familiar with the direct disk access 
devices
under Linux and creating them with mknod, but I am not sure if this is the same 
or
will work with FileMan's direct editing of the device file. 

I think I will just hold off for now and resume with this again after a bit of 
rest. 
I just wonder if anyone else has installed the FOIAVistA20060615 SemiVivA and 
found 
the same absent GTM-UNIX-HFS device from the choice list. I will just 
re-install and try 
again and keep a "script"/screen log of all my actions for review. 

Here are the GTM devices that I did find. 

Select DEVICE NAME: ??

   Choose from:
   BROWSER (CIRN)       Text Browser Utility     NUL
   BROWSER CACHE/NT       HFS/CRT     USER$:[TEMP]DDBR.TXT
   BROWSER DSM/VMS       HFS/CRT     DDBR.TXT
   BROWSER MSM/DOS       HFS/CRT     51
   BROWSER MSM/NT       HFS/CRT     51
   CONSOLE       CONSOLE     |TNT|
   DG FIELD MONITOR       DG field editing protocol     DG FIELD MONITOR
   FAUX PRINTER       LAT TERMINAL     LC-
   GMRA UPDATE RESOURCE       Allergy update control     GMRA UPDATE RESOURCE

   GTM-UNIX-CONSOLE       Console (GT.M)     /dev/tty
   GTM-UNIX-NULL       Bit Bucket (GT.M-Unix)     /dev/null
   GTM-UNIX-TELNET       TELNET     /dev/pts/
   HDIS STATUS RESOURCE DEVICE       Resource Device     HDIS STATUS RESOURCE DE
VICE
   HDIS VUID RESOURCE DEVICE       Resource Device     HDIS VUID RESOURCE DEVICE

   HFS       Host File Server     /tmp

.... 

On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 10:44:12AM -0400, Dan wrote:
> Okay, I created a KIDS build for you that has a routine and option in it.
> 
>          ftp://ftp.mcenter.com/pub/misc/zzdb.kids
> 
> After you install it:
> 
> >D ^XUP
> Select OPTION NAME: ZZDBTEST
> 
> If that hangs, then:
> >D 1^ZZDB1
> 
> 
> If that doesn't point you in any direction then how about a complete screen 
> scrape of  what exactly you're doing -- from the moment you log onto VistA 
> to when the system hangs.
> 
> 
> 
> At 02:55 AM 7/7/2006, you wrote:
> >>  From what I've read, the problem is not OPTION specific -- it's more of 
> >a
> >> general problem when doing anything within menu manager.  If you're 
> >hanging
> >> when you issue a "?" at a menu prompt something's really messed up --
> >> either corrupted code or a db problem.
> >
> >I am sorry for the confusion. It is not hanging when issuing a "?",
> >just when I enter the System status menu - no matter from D ^XUP, D
> >^XUS or D P^DI.
> >
> >> Open up another session window and do a jobexam (whatever the command 
> >is in
> >> GTM) while the other process is "hung".  Keep refreshing the output 
> >because
> >> you may see that it's in some kind of recursive loop.
> >
> >I don't know how to do that - I will hunt the mail list however.
> >
> >> I'd be super duper surprised if there was a locking issue -- I dont think
> >> menu manager locks the global when a user enters "?" at a "top level" 
> >menu
> >> (hard enough to get people to insert locks on a db write, much less a 
> >read).
> >
> >No lke out confirmed that - I would presume that is the proper tool.
> >
> >> I was going to reply with the below, but when I saw the initial question
> >> was that the system hung when entering a "?" at a menu prompt, it sounds
> >> like there's a bigger issue here than just the SS option.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> I'm not really sure what process is hanging, but if it's the System 
> >Status
> >> menu option, what I'd do is:
> >>
> >> First I'd get to a programmer's prompt and execute each piece of the
> >> option's ENTRY ACTION, one at a time, to see if any of these by itself is
> >> causing a problem.
> >
> >GTM>N DUZ,DT,DTIME
> >
> >GTM>X:$D(^%ZOSF("SS"))#2 ^("SS")
> >
> >GTM>D HOME^%ZIS
> >
> >GTM>
> >
> >Not hanging after that.
> >
> >>
> >> If not, then I'd check via the menu system by:
> >>       Create a temp routine with the ENTRY ACTION broken up so it's one
> >> command per line.
> >>       Create a dummy menu option that has a temp routine as it's 
> >ROUTINE field.
> >>       D ^XUP and enter the dummy option's name and then check which 
> >line is
> >> causing the system to hang.
> >
> >Do you mean to create a routine with the the ENTRY ACTION with line
> >breaks? How do I do this? You mean with this code?
> >
> >W @IOF
> >N DUZ,DT,DTIME
> >X:$D(^%ZOSF("SS"))#2 ^("SS")
> >D HOME^%ZIS
> >
> >Thank you so very much for all of your help and patience!
> >
> >
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