What I refer to as 3rd party is the online sellers and your corner toner refill outlets, as opposed to the way over-priced OEM products. Hope that is a little clearer.
I, also, refill black inkjet cartridges when I can. I have an HP PhotoSmart 3850 and am very dissatisfied with the longevity of the HP cartridges. The color ones last no time at all and I see some of the refillers are starting to offer them online. I have heard, can't substantiate it, though, that the OEM color cartridges, all 5 of them, are "short fills" by design and the refills are full loads. Anyone know if that's true? Jeff Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [H] Remanufactured toner shelf life Jeff, You did not mention 3rd Party toners in your original thread. I see 3rd Party supplies as a completely separate query. If you have found 3rd Party supplies that work well in your base printer, fine. In years past(!) many 3rd party printer supplies were "generally" sub-standard or less than <pick an adjective!>. Times have changed greatly, and, most 3rd party suppliers have wised up and greatly improved the products they offer to make money with their offers. The majors <rightly> have lost this retail space to the 3rd party products for a variety of reasons. Mostly old anti-trust regulations...... Printers (laser and ink-jet) today are mostly appliances now. Nobody really has any "new" magic. "Features" yes. Real printing "wow!" NO! If/when I can get "Brother Toner Carts." from a 3rd party cheaper than Office Depot or Brother,........Heck! YES! My simple Brother laser printer does not have a +10yr life span.......anyway...... :) If it lasts 10yrs I will be very surprised! Please! All of you HP Laser-Jet users out there, cool your jets. Yes, they are good printers! Period. I sleep well knowing you are happy with choice. Wish I owned one sometimes! Different strokes for different folks. JMHO. Best, Duncan Jeff Lane wrote: > Thanks, Duncan. I just wondered as I've used 3rd party toners in my HP > 1012 > for a long time and they have worked very well. Thanks for the info. > > Jeff > > > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:18 PM > Subject: Re: [H] Remanufactured toner shelf life > > > Jeff, > Here is my take on your questions: > Remanufactured toner - I take "used" toner carts. from whomever and I > empty it all into a big vat. I mix it up and do whatever "quality > control" I say I do and then feed it back into your toner cart. or, pack > it into my own "brand" toner cart........... :) > > Refill toner - Your toner cart. is running dry? No problemo! Let me > refill it with this "just as good" stuff. (same stuff as above!) > UNLESS, > The REFILL is being done by the OEM. Like same as retail!!!! > > In both cases the retail buyer saves some money. But, many printer mfgs. > state that the use of Reman and Refill toners void the mfg warranties. > If your printer is OutOfWarranty then not a problem (until the fuser > fails). If IN warranty, it is your gamble. > JMHO. > Best, > Duncan > > > Jeff Lane wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> Could someone enlighten me as to the difference between remanufactured >> toner >> and refill toner products? Is remanufactured toner some filtered used >> toner >> or are they both the same. I have never heard this term before. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jeff >> >> >> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [H] Remanufactured toner shelf life >> >> >> At 04:07 PM 21/09/2009, Winterlight wrote: >>> that has been my feeling as well. But I have a Okidata Color Laser. >>> Remanufactured = 85 for all four toners ... Manufacturer = 250 It is >>> crazy expensive but I love this printer. It never fails, never gives >>> me any problems, 256megs of RAM Duplex Network. I guess I will wait >>> and think about it. All remanufactured toners damage fusers? >> To the best of my knowledge, yes. I have clients who use them and >> appear to be lucky with fuser failure, but most of them mean a lot of >> fuser replacements on my part. So frankly, I love remanned toner, >> since they make me a steady revenue stream, but I won't sell them, >> since I don't want to be responsible for the failure. Of course, >> many of these are pharmacies who are selling cigarettes, so I can't >> see how they could complain, but still. :) >> >> T >> >> >> >> > >
