Jeff,
My research is that you are Correctomundo on both points.
No harm, no foul. It is where the market space has gone.
And, yes! I can confirm that OEM "replacement toner carts." are short
filled;.............at least from Brother!!!!! LOL!
But, Brother has been on my case about some 'mandatory/requested/needed'
F/W update to my LP for the past 8 months. Not done yet. LOL! Wonder
why? Nah........... :)
Best,
Duncan
Jeff Lane wrote:
What I refer to as 3rd party is the online sellers and your corner toner
refill outlets, as opposed to the way over-priced OEM products. Hope that is
a little clearer.
I, also, refill black inkjet cartridges when I can. I have an HP PhotoSmart
3850 and am very dissatisfied with the longevity of the HP cartridges. The
color ones last no time at all and I see some of the refillers are starting
to offer them online. I have heard, can't substantiate it, though, that the
OEM color cartridges, all 5 of them, are "short fills" by design and the
refills are full loads. Anyone know if that's true?
Jeff
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Remanufactured toner shelf life
Jeff,
You did not mention 3rd Party toners in your original thread. I see 3rd
Party supplies as a completely separate query. If you have found 3rd
Party supplies that work well in your base printer, fine.
In years past(!) many 3rd party printer supplies were "generally"
sub-standard or less than <pick an adjective!>. Times have changed
greatly, and, most 3rd party suppliers have wised up and greatly
improved the products they offer to make money with their offers. The
majors <rightly> have lost this retail space to the 3rd party products
for a variety of reasons. Mostly old anti-trust regulations......
Printers (laser and ink-jet) today are mostly appliances now. Nobody
really has any "new" magic. "Features" yes. Real printing "wow!" NO!
If/when I can get "Brother Toner Carts." from a 3rd party cheaper than
Office Depot or Brother,........Heck! YES! My simple Brother laser
printer does not have a +10yr life span.......anyway...... :)
If it lasts 10yrs I will be very surprised!
Please! All of you HP Laser-Jet users out there, cool your jets. Yes,
they are good printers! Period. I sleep well knowing you are happy with
choice. Wish I owned one sometimes! Different strokes for different
folks. JMHO.
Best,
Duncan
Jeff Lane wrote:
Thanks, Duncan. I just wondered as I've used 3rd party toners in my HP
1012
for a long time and they have worked very well. Thanks for the info.
Jeff
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Remanufactured toner shelf life
Jeff,
Here is my take on your questions:
Remanufactured toner - I take "used" toner carts. from whomever and I
empty it all into a big vat. I mix it up and do whatever "quality
control" I say I do and then feed it back into your toner cart. or, pack
it into my own "brand" toner cart........... :)
Refill toner - Your toner cart. is running dry? No problemo! Let me
refill it with this "just as good" stuff. (same stuff as above!)
UNLESS,
The REFILL is being done by the OEM. Like same as retail!!!!
In both cases the retail buyer saves some money. But, many printer mfgs.
state that the use of Reman and Refill toners void the mfg warranties.
If your printer is OutOfWarranty then not a problem (until the fuser
fails). If IN warranty, it is your gamble.
JMHO.
Best,
Duncan
Jeff Lane wrote:
Hi guys,
Could someone enlighten me as to the difference between remanufactured
toner
and refill toner products? Is remanufactured toner some filtered used
toner
or are they both the same. I have never heard this term before.
Thanks,
Jeff
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Remanufactured toner shelf life
At 04:07 PM 21/09/2009, Winterlight wrote:
that has been my feeling as well. But I have a Okidata Color Laser.
Remanufactured = 85 for all four toners ... Manufacturer = 250 It is
crazy expensive but I love this printer. It never fails, never gives
me any problems, 256megs of RAM Duplex Network. I guess I will wait
and think about it. All remanufactured toners damage fusers?
To the best of my knowledge, yes. I have clients who use them and
appear to be lucky with fuser failure, but most of them mean a lot of
fuser replacements on my part. So frankly, I love remanned toner,
since they make me a steady revenue stream, but I won't sell them,
since I don't want to be responsible for the failure. Of course,
many of these are pharmacies who are selling cigarettes, so I can't
see how they could complain, but still. :)
T
