I spent weeks reading through thousands of posts at the AV forum,

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/

and ended up with a great Samsung 50" Plasma...  :)


 -- 
JRS 
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Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Bino Gopal <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:49:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [H] advise
> 
> Yeah Pioneer got out of the "making" plasma business.  I know a bit about
> this b/c I researched extensively (and dithered for a while too) when my 26"
> Sony XBR WEGA CRT died earlier this year in Feb; was the best picture you
> could get, but it was just too small and I wanted something bigger.
> 
> The Pioneer is still the best picture you're going to get, even compared to
> new LCDs b/c the blacks are the blackest and all that.  That's b/c the
> filter or comb or whatever you call it on the Kuros (Kuro is the plasma
> line; the Elites are the best of the Kuros) are HANDMADE; yes, no joke-it's
> also why they were so expensive, and couldn't scale, especially with the
> economic downturn.
> 
> So I was very tempted to pick one up; Best Buy had sales on them and was
> considering a display model two, but the 2 problems with that:
> 
> 1) Since they're no longer making them, if something happens, what would I
> get as a replacement?  Basically no guarantees on warranty or anything
> 2) The 60" (I wanted at least that size) was ~$5-6k, even if I got a floor
> model which has been on for a while, etc
> 
> Since I got a 60" LED DLP that looks great for $950 (and just has a little
> hotspotting; otherwise the picture is AWESOME with HD cable (though you can
> tell which channels are skimping on the bandwidth, and which aren't-I will
> say SyFy and USA are doing a *very* good job there) and for what I paid I
> wouldn't feel bad in getting a new set in 2 or more years if I wanted
> to-though I don't hope to need to.
> 
> And by then, things will have changed enough there'll be better tech out
> there that obviates all this stuff.
> 
> And yeah, if you look at the industry, LCD has always been an inferior
> picture; it's gotten better, but objectives test show it's still not as good
> as a good plasma (read: Pioneer Kuro Elite, or the best Panasonics, which
> aren't bad either), but it was all a function of thinness and marketing; the
> buying public is not the techie or detail-oriented and if you can fool them,
> you drive the market to kill all the non-thin sets, and plasma was still too
> expensive in comparison and also uses a lot more power.
> 
> I mean, an LCD tv is just a big computer monitor right?  There's stuff
> native to the technology that don't make it good for viewing tv/movies and
> all that motion, hence all the 120Hz, 240Hz BS they have to do to compensate
> for that (I was talking to an ISF certified tech while at Best Buy who was
> filling me in on some of this stuff).
> 
> I mean, some of the new tvs with the 240Hz "super-reality" stuff just looks
> WRONG-have you guys seen what I'm talking about?!  It's crazy; it takes
> movies and makes them look like video and it just looks WRONG!
> 
> Anyway, just some random thoughts not organized very well since I spent
> quite a lot of time earlier this year researching and deciding what to
> do...HTH!
> 
>                             BINO

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