He'll still be able to use the wifi if it's android, if not I don't know. I 
bypassed the activation screen on the phone my son had and he was surfing the 
net, using IM and playing games and android apps while we were trying to get 
his 
account switched to the smartphone. Once we found that verizon would not under 
any circumstance allow the smart phone without paying extra, we canceled his 
phone service and got the virgin mobile

lopaka





________________________________
From: Bill <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, September 23, 2011 1:59:55 PM
Subject: Re: [H] STOP...

No. Not unless you continue to have the phone activated on the account. 
It may well work for a few days but once the desctivation kicks in the device 
is 
dead. No Wifi no GPS.

Bill
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:38 PM, "Anthony Q. Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:

> So, if I upgrade to a new smartphone on VZW when I am eligible, will I be 
> able 
>to use my old smartphone on Wifi?  And what about GPS?
> 
> On 9/23/2011 4:38 PM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote:
>> I know, I just dealt with that for my stepson since he had a phone under his
>> paternal dads verizon account. They refuse to let you have a smartphone 
>without
>> paying extra for data plan.  We ended up getting him a virgin mobile phone 
for
>> $25 a month with unlimited text and data instead.
>> 
>> 
>> lopaka
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Bill<[email protected]>
>> To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]>
>> Sent: Fri, September 23, 2011 12:09:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [H] STOP...
>> 
>> That's a pretty neat trick. I could never get away with that with Verizon. 
>Heck
>> they refused to take the data plan off on my old Blackberry 3 years ago. They
>> told me, "That's impossible."
>> 
>> Bill
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Joshua MacCraw<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I simply called customer service and said look I don't want any data
>>> services, put data block on my lines. Of course she gave me the standard
>>> company policy "that cannot be done with a smartphone". So I said try it and
>>> she was amazed it let her do it.
>>> 
>>> 6mo+ later I still have the block, no data plan, no charges, no data, and
>>> wifi works fine despite the statements to the contrary by AT&  T and ominous
>>> warnings it would automatically be re-added based on my IMEI being a
>>> smartphone.
>>> 
>>> No data does not mean pay-per-use, it means none and they can not force me
>>> to pay for none.
>>> On Sep 23, 2011 4:39 AM, "Anthony Q. Martin"<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>> 1) I don't understand #3. How do you sidestep the forced data plan? I
>>>> might want to do that...can you do that and still use Wifi?
>>>> 2) Sheep. Paying for txt on top of data/voice is just silly. Charging
>>>> for it is evil, but the American way (since, WE are willing to pay for
>>>> it, apparently).
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/22/2011 6:28 PM, Joshua MacCraw wrote:
>>>>> Personally I am fine with the ability to communicate things when you want
>>> to
>>>>> communicate and how you want to do so with minor qualifications.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. SMS as a service costing money per use or in packages is redundant and
>>>>> ridiculous. Twitter serves the same role same as any other form of IM
>>> over
>>>>> data link. I don't have texting, don't send me a text it cost me money,
>>>>> that's my complaint.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. This policy of providers of openness first privacy second has to go. I
>>>>> use the ability to share details about my life with people all the time
>>> but
>>>>> only the people but I choose to do so with. As long as privacy rules
>>> default
>>>>> to deny everything by default and have granular allow to few, I am fine
>>> with
>>>>> it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. Mobile data is just too damn expensive and too damn limited to be
>>>>> useful. $5/mo per GB shared by my entire family plan would be acceptable
>>>>> until then I go without mobile data also. ( yes, I have a smartphone and
>>>>> have managed to sidestep the forced data plan by opting for data-block on
>>>>> all lines, wifi or die!)
>>>>> 
>>>>> That said, the texters who sit and text rather than talk to the person
>>>>> sitting in front of them is a little ridiculous. Same goes if they are
>>> still
>>>>> using sms instead of just taking advantage of data services, for as long
>>> as
>>>>> they pay for these stupid little text packages real data access will
>>> never
>>>>> come down in price.
>>>>> 

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