It's just not true. Once again, one can do anything on a PC that one can do on a mac...so if you don't like apple prices, you can buy something else. Just because no one else makes apple stuff doesn't mean they exist in a vacuum or have any control over what people buy. If people didn't want their stuff, Apple would be out of business! Get it, OUT OF BUSINESS. They compete for the minds of customers, just as everyone else does. Any other vendor is free to develop their own tablet os, or their own desktop os, or whatever. Look at HP and their tablet. Look at Rim and its playbook. They can create their own eco-system too. Amazon has been slowly doing it too. Any one of them could have done exactly as Apple has done. The only thing wrong that Apple has done, based on comments here, is they achieved some level of success at it (and that was only because they got clear on the main line of competition with MS). And that, my friends, is the heart of the matter. Had they gone out of business they would have simply been labeled stupid. Sort of what people are thinking about RIM these days.

On 12/10/2011 4:04 PM, Joshua MacCraw wrote:
Jezzus Ant, are you really going to short circuit logic? Is apple in
competition with themselves? Extrapolate at bit and realize there no market
forces lowering apple prices because they are they only manufacturer of
everything mac. PC competition is not doing it and if they are that would
totally disappear in an apple dominated market just like the pre-clone era
of true blue IBM.
  On Dec 10, 2011 12:40 PM, "Anthony Q. Martin"<[email protected]>  wrote:

Apple is not dictating hardware prices. They have plenty of competition on
every front, for every product they sell.  You guys are too funny.

On 12/10/2011 3:35 PM, Joshua MacCraw wrote:

Nail on the head! I don't want any single source dictating hardware prices
and that IS how Apple is a monopoly. They are riding on the cost tails of
the wintel juggernaut that would not exist in a Apple dominated market.
  On Dec 10, 2011 8:30 AM, "Thane Sherrington"<
thane@computerconnectionltd.**com<[email protected]>>
  wrote:

  At 09:43 AM 10/12/2011, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
  What are you talking about, man?  Apple makes laptops, pcs, tablets, mp3
players, etc. Others make devices that do exactly the same things that
Apple products do. You can't say apple has a monopoly on its products
anymore than you can say that lenovo has a monopoly on the x220t laptop
or
samsung has a monopoly on the series 7 slate.  It's a silly argument.
  Apple laptops are part of a plethora of hardware choices.
Having a closed ecosystem doesn't make it a monopoly.  You have no loss
of choice and you aren't forced into anything.  Hating for little
reason is
not an attractive trait.

  I think his point was:  If Apple were to get 95% of the market (like
Microsoft has) then there would be no Dell, HP, Acer, etc choices.  If
you
want Apple OS, you must by Apple hardware.  I guess it's not a monopoly
(although it shares some characteristics), it's more of a closed garden.
  Frankly, I'm glad that Microsoft (for all its warts) is the dominant
player in the PC world.  If things were reversed, the PC world would be a
lot less interesting.

T



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