I give up. As usual short sighted people can follow flows of logic nor see a potential threat for what it is. Hopefully I won't need to say I told you so when the pc market dies and we're dealing with worse than the IBM monopoly. On Dec 10, 2011 1:20 PM, "Anthony Q. Martin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's just not true. Once again, one can do anything on a PC that one can > do on a mac...so if you don't like apple prices, you can buy something > else. Just because no one else makes apple stuff doesn't mean they exist > in a vacuum or have any control over what people buy. If people didn't want > their stuff, Apple would be out of business! Get it, OUT OF BUSINESS. They > compete for the minds of customers, just as everyone else does. Any other > vendor is free to develop their own tablet os, or their own desktop os, or > whatever. Look at HP and their tablet. Look at Rim and its playbook. They > can create their own eco-system too. Amazon has been slowly doing it too. > Any one of them could have done exactly as Apple has done. The only thing > wrong that Apple has done, based on comments here, is they achieved some > level of success at it (and that was only because they got clear on the > main line of competition with MS). And that, my friends, is the heart of > the matter. Had they gone out of business they would have simply been > labeled stupid. Sort of what people are thinking about RIM these days. > > On 12/10/2011 4:04 PM, Joshua MacCraw wrote: > >> Jezzus Ant, are you really going to short circuit logic? Is apple in >> competition with themselves? Extrapolate at bit and realize there no >> market >> forces lowering apple prices because they are they only manufacturer of >> everything mac. PC competition is not doing it and if they are that would >> totally disappear in an apple dominated market just like the pre-clone era >> of true blue IBM. >> On Dec 10, 2011 12:40 PM, "Anthony Q. Martin"<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Apple is not dictating hardware prices. They have plenty of competition >>> on >>> every front, for every product they sell. You guys are too funny. >>> >>> On 12/10/2011 3:35 PM, Joshua MacCraw wrote: >>> >>> Nail on the head! I don't want any single source dictating hardware >>>> prices >>>> and that IS how Apple is a monopoly. They are riding on the cost tails >>>> of >>>> the wintel juggernaut that would not exist in a Apple dominated market. >>>> On Dec 10, 2011 8:30 AM, "Thane Sherrington"< >>>> thane@computerconnectionltd.****com<thane@**computerconnectionltd.com<[email protected]> >>>> >> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> At 09:43 AM 10/12/2011, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: >>>> >>>>> What are you talking about, man? Apple makes laptops, pcs, tablets, >>>>> mp3 >>>>> >>>>>> players, etc. Others make devices that do exactly the same things that >>>>>> Apple products do. You can't say apple has a monopoly on its products >>>>>> anymore than you can say that lenovo has a monopoly on the x220t >>>>>> laptop >>>>>> or >>>>>> samsung has a monopoly on the series 7 slate. It's a silly argument. >>>>>> Apple laptops are part of a plethora of hardware choices. >>>>>> Having a closed ecosystem doesn't make it a monopoly. You have no >>>>>> loss >>>>>> of choice and you aren't forced into anything. Hating for little >>>>>> reason is >>>>>> not an attractive trait. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think his point was: If Apple were to get 95% of the market (like >>>>>> >>>>> Microsoft has) then there would be no Dell, HP, Acer, etc choices. If >>>>> you >>>>> want Apple OS, you must by Apple hardware. I guess it's not a monopoly >>>>> (although it shares some characteristics), it's more of a closed >>>>> garden. >>>>> Frankly, I'm glad that Microsoft (for all its warts) is the dominant >>>>> player in the PC world. If things were reversed, the PC world would >>>>> be a >>>>> lot less interesting. >>>>> >>>>> T >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
