Yes, that is what I mean I would like to see being official somehow. Rachel
--- On Sat, 6/2/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ha-Safran] RDA and the Bible To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Date: Saturday, June 2, 2012, 9:24 PM _filtered #yiv1307272914 { font-family:Cambria Math;} _filtered #yiv1307272914 { font-family:Calibri;} _filtered #yiv1307272914 { font-family:Tahoma;} _filtered #yiv1307272914 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv1307272914 P.yiv1307272914MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"serif";FONT-SIZE:12pt;} #yiv1307272914 LI.yiv1307272914MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"serif";FONT-SIZE:12pt;} #yiv1307272914 DIV.yiv1307272914MsoNormal { MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FAMILY:"serif";FONT-SIZE:12pt;} #yiv1307272914 A:link { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1307272914 SPAN.yiv1307272914MsoHyperlink { COLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1307272914 A:visited { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1307272914 SPAN.yiv1307272914MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR:purple;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;} #yiv1307272914 SPAN.yiv1307272914EmailStyle17 { FONT-FAMILY:"sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d;} #yiv1307272914 .yiv1307272914MsoChpDefault { } #yiv1307272914 DIV.yiv1307272914WordSection1 { } In the interest of specificity, and at the risk of creating a longer term, I suggest: B'reshith/Genesis (Hebrew Bible). I like this because it includes the Hebrew term for the book, and places the book in the Tanakh. Beila Organic ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: 'Andrea Rapp' ; [email protected] ; 'Rachel Fischer' Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [ha-Safran] RDA and the Bible Testament does NOT mean covenant… and NEVER has. While a collection of books that Christians call “New Testament” CAN be viewed as a will of some god, it is NOT (and does NOT even claim to be) similar to the collection of Hebrew books venerated by Jews as the writing describing a number of Covenants, i.e. Pacts, including the one between G-d of Israel and the Jewish nation something that Christian communities are NOT. Old Testament is a Christian title for the translations of certain ancient Jewish books that venerated by Christians, not by Jews. The content of “Old Testament” differs from one Christian church to another as is the sequence of the included books. Thus if we want to understand each other it is better to call each book individually, i.e. B’reshith/Genesis, Sh’mot/Exodus, etc. Alex From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Rapp Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:41 PM To: [email protected]; Rachel Fischer Subject: Re: [ha-Safran] RDA and the Bible Rachel, as I'm sure you'll hear from many, "Old Testament" itself is a Christian term. The "old covenant" (testament means covenant) is defunct, according to the early Church, and has been replaced by a new one, "in Christ." So Jews are generally grateful to see the terms "old" and "new" done away with. Especially "old." It has very negative connotations. Jewish Bible, or Hebrew Bible is generally preferred, and something like "Christian Scriptures" for the NT. I think Genesis (Bible) is fine, myself. --- On Sat, 6/2/12, Rachel Fischer <[email protected]> wrote: From: Rachel Fischer <[email protected]> Subject: [ha-Safran] RDA and the Bible To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, June 2, 2012, 5:07 PM Hi I am currently taking a class that is comparing RDA to AACR2. I am unhappy with certain changes that RDA is making. Module 4 in this training series: http://www.loc.gov/bibliographic-future/rda/trainthetrainer.html talks about changes to how the bible should be represented. It says that in the cases of individual books, like Genesis, we no longer are supposed to label it as Old Testament, just Genesis, Bible. I was wondering how others feel about this. I am wondering if this is a step back to other people, besides me when it comes to issues of a Christian bias. I want it to be labeled as the Old Testament and given a distinction that shows that it is a Jewish version and not a Christian version that has been published along with a New Testament related series that would be part of a Christian series. Has there been any discussion or complaints about this that I haven't seen yet or are Jews in agreement that this change is alright? 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