This may be a bit more than you were considering initially, but it gives and example of how to get funding on the KickStarter website and I can help with Hexayurt graphics and t shirt - i have a silkscreen kit. * * * * *HexaYurt Project - Destination Black Rock City 2011.* * * *Summary:* * * Experimental feasibility project for sustainable 4-season, user built mobile housing.
*Description:* * * The HexaYurt; ( http://hexayurt.com/ ) is a grassroots designed mobile shelter which is able to be erected by two persons in a short period of time. It is ideally suited to disaster situations due to it's use of standard building materials and it's "near zero" construction waste footprint. Able to shelter a small family, it allows for the reusable panels to be expanded as needed, and quickly moved from Refugee camp, to semi-permanent dwelling, to Long term Housing unit. This experiment is to transition a Hexayurt made of 2 inch Foam...blah blah blah from a northern summer in Wisconsin, to the Black Rock Desert of Nevada for the Burning man Festival and then to return for a "winter over." The purpose is to determine the reuseablity and fragility of the Therma whatever panels in a variety of environments, and to maintain a comfortable secure living space. Essential to this project is the need to use inexperienced builders, who for the first time, are constructing a Hexayurt along with the web based advice of the Hexayurt community. By building this shelter in this way, it looks a a "Real World" experimental situation where individuals will trust their life safety to the effectiveness of the Hexayurt structure, and test extremes not previously explored. *Proposal:* * * The funding for this project will purchase the materials to build the Haxayurt, provide for some transportation costs to and from Black Rock City, and allow for documentation of the project on a go forward basis. Some of the items needed include: A Dual "weather station" with sensors inside and outside the Hexayurt to provide habitability data. Internet bandwidth and remote storage devices ( use of a laptop) to record the readings and publish the results on a "real time" basis as much as possible. Non-reusable materials such as tape, anchor rebar and other simple hand tools necessary in the construction and maintenance of the Hexayurt. This data and the results of the testing will be published on the Hexayurt Website, with all sponsors prominently listed. Donations may be in kind (for building materials) or cash. The reuse of surplus building materials which meet the specifications of the proposal would be glamorously received. *What do I get:* * * 10 DOLLARS OR LESS Recognition on the HexaYurt Website and a warm welcome to inspect the Hexayurt and meet the co-creators at the various sites where it will be installed. 50 DOLLARS - Recognition on the HexaYurt Website and a warm welcome to inspect the Hexayurt and meet the co-creators at the various sites where it will be installed. Complementary beverage at an On-Site reception / showing of the Hexayurt as installed in Black Rock City. 100 DOLLARS: Recognition on the HexaYurt Website and a printed certificate of support suitable for framing; and a warm welcome to inspect the Hexayurt and meet the co-creators at the various sites where it will be installed. Complementary beverage at an On-Site reception / showing of the Hexayurt as installed in Black Rock City. Specially Made "Hexayurt - Black Rock City" T-shirt (design pending) 500 DOLLARS: Recognition on the HexaYurt Website and a printed certificate of support suitable for framing; and a warm welcome to inspect the Hexayurt and meet the co-creators at the various sites where it will be installed. Complementary beverage at an On-Site reception / showing of the Hexayurt as installed in Black Rock City. Specially Made "Hexayurt - Black Rock City" T-shirt (design pending) Relax in the Hexayurt "on Playa" for a night of dust free cool comfort. (limited to two donors) Jun 27, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Cody Firestone <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Brian Chabot <[email protected]>wrote: > >> (Comments interspersed below...) >> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter >> Project) <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> 1. Is there an "ideal" thickness of Thermax HD to use? I will have >> >> significant snow loads to deal with in the winter and the more >> >> insulation I can get, the better. But the 2" boards are already $53 >> >> each and sound like they will be more than a handful to manipulate on >> >> site. >> > >> > 2" sounds pretty reasonable. 1" is warm, 2" will be warmer, and >> stronger. >> >> At $53 a board... OUCH! >> >> > Remember these are foam panels. I'm not *at all* sure that even a >> Pentayurt >> > in 2" thermax will survive three feet of snow - you're talking about a >> ton >> > or more of snow over that roof area... >> >> I still want to see this tested. The even distribution of snow vs. a >> weight in any one point is the key. In icy or "falling snow" >> conditions (such as under eaves or trees), no I don't think it would >> hold up, but natural snowfall? More likely. >> > > *Check out the manufacturer website / specs. Perhaps even ASK for the > engineers datum. It will show the PSF for different situations.* > *I can help with my timber framing knowledge, but not a "licensed" > engineer... but our two towers stood 60 mph wind storms last year and didnt > wiggle!* > * > * > >> >> >> 4. I happen to have a concrete slab already in place where I plan to >> >> build this... Any suggestions on anchoring? I have a friend who is >> >> well-versed in conventional building techniques, so I know that he can >> >> help me drill the slab and put in anchors - just tie to these instead >> >> of using stakes, etc.? >> > >> > Yep, that's how I'd approach it. >> >> Also keep in mind the cold will get inside through the concrete floor >> unless you insulate the inside. >> >> With showload, the hexayurt design is likely to stress most along the >> seam between the alls and roof panels. I'd run a couple layers of >> tape along this area plus an overlap above and below, just to make >> sure. >> > > *Since you have this concrete footing, I'd Suggest "sill plates"* > *basiclly you go a rent a "HILTI" gun which shoots very strong nails into > concrete with a cartritdge like a gun. Yeah....* > * > * > *So you outline the footprint of the hexayurt in Pressure treated 2x4's > HILTI nailed to the conctere. You can then place anchor points where ever > you like.* > * > * > *The other main improvement is increased rigidity. The snow on the roof > of the dome will cause outward pressure at the base.* > *the weight will be transmitted from the angled rook, into the upright > boards, and it will want to "Splay" and deform , eventually the footing > slips and you have a collapse.* > * > * > *If you put in sill plates, and build the foam panels inside this > footprint, it is like having foundation .* > * > * > *PS concerete is notoriously wet and slippery in winter, so the sills > arouns you hut will also prevent it some moving around in the wind, etc.* > >> >> > Not trivial *at all* Robert. I'm only sorry we don't know the answers! >> > >> > But please write up what you do and what you learn, and we'll get the >> whole >> > thing figured out over time, a building at a time. >> >> As those on this list can attest, I've been trying to get a hexayurt >> (or pentayurt) set up in New England for destructive testing under >> snow load to see the limits. So far, we simply have not been able to >> afford to buy panels we are reasonably certain won't last. Even the >> 1" is un-affordable in the current economic condition of those I've >> been able to get in on it. I have had an offer for tape and I found >> three locations, from central MA to northern VT, but no panels... >> > > *I suggest: 1. develop a cost analysis. for example how many panels, how > much donations, etc.* > * > * > *2. Start a project on http://www.kickstarter.com/ Most Burning Man art > projects get their funding this way. you could raise a few hundred dollars. > Say "this is infrastructural testing for future Playa built insulated > dwellings." some corporate sounding language like that, and i bet you have > a few people sign up.* > * > * > *3. Talk to the MANUFACTUIRER.... they may support a "trial of their > product in a new use, and to develop more enviromental uses and BLAH BLAH > BLAH" Vinay could probably help with this language.* > * > * > *To the company that makes this stuff, we are talking a pallet of product, > 20 sheets lets say?* > *so to PROVE their product would work, etc gives them a couple things, a. > braggin rights that they are doing something "good" b. a new market to > market to (especially for small sheds, outbuildingd, etc) 3. build a new > customer base by demonstrating effeacy, and thus having more people pay > "full price" for the material.* > * > * > *Aluminet, which is now a staple for many playa camps,l was not much of a > consumer product. it was for specific insulating issues in industry. Now, > highly sought after , at least in the burner community.* > * > * > *Take a lot of pictures, be effusive in your praise, or honest "it didnt > work" and then provide press releases to anyone you can think of.* > >> >> >> Brian >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "hexayurt" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en. >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en.
