And the un-cut roof panel could be re-cycled into a larger hexayurt at a latter stage.
On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:01:39 PM UTC+1, Gavin Harkness wrote: > > In some of my early designs, I looked at using the triangles and cutting > the panels into thirds (thanks for the reminder, I'd forgotten all about > that idea). It meetings your goals of zero waste and increases living > space. From what I remember, some of the reasoning why I decided against > it was: > > - Complicates construction. More measuring and cutting and would > require joints in the end panels. More skill and time required. > - The increased height (from 1200 to 1400 or 4' to 4'7") still > wouldn't allow you to stand up. > - I like the idea of a little rain protection over the doorway to stop > the Irish mist from bucketing into the shelter and would allow ventilation > holes to help control condensation. > - Easier to keep warm > - Increased windage. > - Increased visual pollution. > > It's one of the beautiful things about the hexayurt, you can adapt the > design to meet your needs. > > On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 9:58:31 AM UTC+1, Vinay Gupta wrote: >> >> >> They'll be building up until 4AM the day they get into vans ;-) >> >> Basically getting an H13 together last minute is not feasible, but doing >> an H4 is easy - doesn't have the complicated roof geometry to assemble, >> which is quite hard conceptually. >> >> Gavin, if you make the "tall" panels using the offcuts from the roof, you >> can divide the wall panels into neat thirds (2 boards gives six identical >> wall pieces) and have a slightly higher unit, and zero waste. >> >> Elegant, no? >> >> Vinay >> >> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Lucas González < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Can't from phone, but I can imagine the H2 wikipage at appropedia. I >>> won't ever go to BM (live too far), but I wonder, would a wikipage soon be >>> helpful for this year's burners, or is it too late? >>> Lucas >>> El 07/08/2012 09:49, "Lucas González" <[email protected]> >>> escribió: >>> >>> *blasted* Now I see it, thanks!!! >>>> /me goes back to sleep, as now the day is done. >>>> >>>> Seriously, this permanent exercise at seeing and reseeing common panels >>>> is quite an experience. >>>> >>>> "Just four cuts." At most, four more cuts. >>>> >>>> Brilliant! Thanks! >>>> >>>> Lucas >>>> El 07/08/2012 09:17, "Gavin Harkness" <[email protected]> escribió: >>>> >>>>> Sorry for the confusion, I should learn more sketchup to show the >>>>> details more clearly. The design originates from my prospecting a 1/4 >>>>> sized H13 model and visualising a normal 2400x1200 sheet as four sheets. >>>>> I >>>>> soon realised that if I had two H13 doors on either end, there would be >>>>> only one roof joint. >>>>> >>>>> The side walls (S) are 1/4 of a sheet (1200x600), two ends (E) are >>>>> then cut from the remaining 1800x1200 sheet. The roof (R) can remain >>>>> uncut, or if you think windage is a problem, chop them off and use them >>>>> as >>>>> a ground insulation inside, or if you want to give the door some >>>>> protection >>>>> from the elements, cut off two triangles from the rear and add them to >>>>> the >>>>> front. I say, "Horses for courses." >>>>> >>>>> I've attached a quick image of the panel cuts. I hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 8:38:59 AM UTC+1, LucasG wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, starting to see here. Over at the "H13 plywood" page at >>>>>> appropedia, each panel and triangle is named, so let me give that a try. >>>>>> >>>>>> The H4 has, if I understand correctly, at most 10 pieces: 2 roofs >>>>>> (R), 4 end walls (E), and 4 small triangles for the 2 side walls (S). >>>>>> Each >>>>>> R is a full panel minus 2 small triangles. Each E is a big triangle (a >>>>>> panel cut thru the diagonal) minus a small triangle (S). >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the third variant of the H4 (does it have a non-normalised >>>>>> name?) stands best to wind, no? >>>>>> >>>>>> This is huge. Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Lucas >>>>>> El 07/08/2012 08:18, "Gavin Harkness" <[email protected]> >>>>>> escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If those triangles are from the roof panels, well there is no real >>>>>>> need to cut them off, if you don't want to (middle model). Another >>>>>>> option >>>>>>> is to cut of just one end of the shelter's roof triangles and add them >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the other end, to make a small awning (left model). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, August 6, 2012 8:40:21 PM UTC+1, LucasG wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe part of the build van be made *inside* a bigger one that's >>>>>>>> already built? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've done a paper model (can't see skp from phone) and I end up >>>>>>>> with 4 unused small triangles. Also, I make more cuts than described. >>>>>>>> ??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, if someone could do a flat model of the cuts, I'd really really >>>>>>>> appreciate it - I'm just very slow at understanding 3D. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks like the family of *shapes* can't grow much more (devilish >>>>>>>> grin). For plywood, I wonder what the solution space is for *joints*. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The landscape looks good! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lucas >>>>>>>> El 06/08/2012 12:20, "Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)" < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> escribió: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Absolutely lovely piece of work, Gavin. Absolutely lovely. I think >>>>>>>>> this would make an *excellent* first build hexayurt for people >>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>> to Burning Man with a hexayurt for the first time. Not a ton of >>>>>>>>> space, >>>>>>>>> but *so incredibly easy to build* because it doesn't have the >>>>>>>>> complex >>>>>>>>> taping of the roof cone, which can be a challenge for first timers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Great work. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Vinay >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Gavin Harkness < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > Hi, >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > I'm new to this group, but I've been follow the hexayurt website >>>>>>>>> for several >>>>>>>>> > years, dreaming of any opportunity to build one. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > I've attached a small contribution to the great work people are >>>>>>>>> doing here. >>>>>>>>> > It's a Google sketchup design for a 2 people hexayurt, made from >>>>>>>>> 4 sheets of >>>>>>>>> > 8x4, and can be built with as little as 4 cuts. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > It stands 1.2m high, 2.4m long and just under 2.1m wide. Two >>>>>>>>> end panels and >>>>>>>>> > one side panel is cut from a single sheet and the roof, in it's >>>>>>>>> simplest >>>>>>>>> > form, doesn't require any cutting at all. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > If you have any questions, please ask. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> Google Groups >>>>>>>>> > "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>> > https://groups.google.com/d/**ms**g/hexayurt/-/svOZ7l70piwJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/hexayurt/-/svOZ7l70piwJ> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > hexayurt+unsubscribe@**googlegro**ups.com<hexayurt%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> > http://groups.google.com/**group**/hexayurt?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Vinay Gupta >>>>>>>>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc - the Gupta State Failure Management >>>>>>>>> Archive >>>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_ark - or see it directly on Archive.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering >>>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an >>>>>>>>> invincible summer" - Albert Camus >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Twitter/Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk/AIM: hexayurt >>>>>>>>> UK Cell : +44 (0) 7500 895568 / USA VOIP (+1) 775-743-1851 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> hexayurt+unsubscribe@**googlegro**ups.com<hexayurt%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>>>> group**/hexayurt?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/**msg/hexayurt/-/VVFCRFuLToEJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/hexayurt/-/VVFCRFuLToEJ> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hexayurt+unsubscribe@* >>>>>>> *googlegroups.com <hexayurt%[email protected]>. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>> group/hexayurt?hl=en <http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 8:38:59 AM UTC+1, LucasG wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, starting to see here. Over at the "H13 plywood" page at >>>>>> appropedia, each panel and triangle is named, so let me give that a try. >>>>>> >>>>>> The H4 has, if I understand correctly, at most 10 pieces: 2 roofs >>>>>> (R), 4 end walls (E), and 4 small triangles for the 2 side walls (S). >>>>>> Each >>>>>> R is a full panel minus 2 small triangles. Each E is a big triangle (a >>>>>> panel cut thru the diagonal) minus a small triangle (S). >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the third variant of the H4 (does it have a non-normalised >>>>>> name?) stands best to wind, no? >>>>>> >>>>>> This is huge. Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Lucas >>>>>> El 07/08/2012 08:18, "Gavin Harkness" <[email protected]> >>>>>> escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If those triangles are from the roof panels, well there is no real >>>>>>> need to cut them off, if you don't want to (middle model). Another >>>>>>> option >>>>>>> is to cut of just one end of the shelter's roof triangles and add them >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the other end, to make a small awning (left model). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, August 6, 2012 8:40:21 PM UTC+1, LucasG wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe part of the build van be made *inside* a bigger one that's >>>>>>>> already built? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've done a paper model (can't see skp from phone) and I end up >>>>>>>> with 4 unused small triangles. Also, I make more cuts than described. >>>>>>>> ??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, if someone could do a flat model of the cuts, I'd really really >>>>>>>> appreciate it - I'm just very slow at understanding 3D. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks like the family of *shapes* can't grow much more (devilish >>>>>>>> grin). For plywood, I wonder what the solution space is for *joints*. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The landscape looks good! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lucas >>>>>>>> El 06/08/2012 12:20, "Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)" < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> escribió: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Absolutely lovely piece of work, Gavin. Absolutely lovely. I think >>>>>>>>> this would make an *excellent* first build hexayurt for people >>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>> to Burning Man with a hexayurt for the first time. Not a ton of >>>>>>>>> space, >>>>>>>>> but *so incredibly easy to build* because it doesn't have the >>>>>>>>> complex >>>>>>>>> taping of the roof cone, which can be a challenge for first timers. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Great work. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Vinay >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Gavin Harkness < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > Hi, >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > I'm new to this group, but I've been follow the hexayurt website >>>>>>>>> for several >>>>>>>>> > years, dreaming of any opportunity to build one. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > I've attached a small contribution to the great work people are >>>>>>>>> doing here. >>>>>>>>> > It's a Google sketchup design for a 2 people hexayurt, made from >>>>>>>>> 4 sheets of >>>>>>>>> > 8x4, and can be built with as little as 4 cuts. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > It stands 1.2m high, 2.4m long and just under 2.1m wide. Two >>>>>>>>> end panels and >>>>>>>>> > one side panel is cut from a single sheet and the roof, in it's >>>>>>>>> simplest >>>>>>>>> > form, doesn't require any cutting at all. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > If you have any questions, please ask. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> Google Groups >>>>>>>>> > "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>> > https://groups.google.com/d/**ms**g/hexayurt/-/svOZ7l70piwJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/hexayurt/-/svOZ7l70piwJ> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> > hexayurt+unsubscribe@**googlegro**ups.com<hexayurt%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> > http://groups.google.com/**group**/hexayurt?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Vinay Gupta >>>>>>>>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc - the Gupta State Failure Management >>>>>>>>> Archive >>>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_ark - or see it directly on Archive.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering >>>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an >>>>>>>>> invincible summer" - Albert Camus >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Twitter/Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk/AIM: hexayurt >>>>>>>>> UK Cell : +44 (0) 7500 895568 / USA VOIP (+1) 775-743-1851 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> hexayurt+unsubscribe@**googlegro**ups.com<hexayurt%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>>>> group**/hexayurt?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/**msg/hexayurt/-/VVFCRFuLToEJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/hexayurt/-/VVFCRFuLToEJ> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hexayurt+unsubscribe@* >>>>>>> *googlegroups.com <hexayurt%[email protected]>. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>> group/hexayurt?hl=en <http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/hexayurt/-/kBtGczdIeVEJ. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Vinay Gupta >> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >> >> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc <http://bit.ly/gupta_arc%20>- the Gupta State >> Failure Management Archive >> http://bit.ly/gupta_ark - or see it directly on Archive.org >> >> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering >> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision >> >> "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an >> invincible summer" - Albert Camus >> >> Twitter/Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk/AIM: hexayurt >> UK Cell : +44 (0) 7500 895568 / USA VOIP (+1) 775-743-1851 >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. 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