My thoughts exactly, I even played around with building it similar to the way these guys build furniture:
http://playatech.com/product_list.php So that I could assemble without screws and use either a tube of silicone or duct tape to seal the joints. I even imagined a kit where the panels had perforated cuts, predrilled holes, ready for someone to"break" the kit open and quickly assemble the shelter. The perforated side/end panels would be sandwiched between the two roof panels. These could be assembled, with 2" timbers precut at the required angle, with some wood glue, a handful of screws and a screwdriver (or for us lazy people, a electric drill). On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:16:47 PM UTC+1, LucasG wrote: > > Gavin, > > Wow. Yes. So, whenever the wikipage gets done, this (H4, procrastiyurt, or > whatever it gets called) is really a family/group/set of designs. > > For plywood, halving the number of cuts (and keeping half the panels > whole) is important. Plus you get more places (outside, below the roof) to > put blocks and then run screws through. > > This may well be my first real size yurt ever: plywood, 4 cuts plus a > door, will look at how to waterproof the very top. Basically, a third of > the cost of an H12, which I wouldn't use anyway. More portable, too! And, > not sure, buildable by a single person? > > Lucas > El 07/08/2012 13:04, "Gavin Harkness" <[email protected]> escribió: > >> And the un-cut roof panel could be re-cycled into a larger hexayurt at a >> latter stage. >> >> On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:01:39 PM UTC+1, Gavin Harkness wrote: >>> >>> In some of my early designs, I looked at using the triangles and cutting >>> the panels into thirds (thanks for the reminder, I'd forgotten all about >>> that idea). It meetings your goals of zero waste and increases living >>> space. From what I remember, some of the reasoning why I decided against >>> it was: >>> >>> - Complicates construction. More measuring and cutting and would >>> require joints in the end panels. More skill and time required. >>> - The increased height (from 1200 to 1400 or 4' to 4'7") still >>> wouldn't allow you to stand up. >>> - I like the idea of a little rain protection over the doorway to >>> stop the Irish mist from bucketing into the shelter and would allow >>> ventilation holes to help control condensation. >>> - Easier to keep warm >>> - Increased windage. >>> - Increased visual pollution. >>> >>> It's one of the beautiful things about the hexayurt, you can adapt the >>> design to meet your needs. >>> >>> On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 9:58:31 AM UTC+1, Vinay Gupta wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> They'll be building up until 4AM the day they get into vans ;-) >>>> >>>> Basically getting an H13 together last minute is not feasible, but >>>> doing an H4 is easy - doesn't have the complicated roof geometry to >>>> assemble, which is quite hard conceptually. >>>> >>>> Gavin, if you make the "tall" panels using the offcuts from the roof, >>>> you can divide the wall panels into neat thirds (2 boards gives six >>>> identical wall pieces) and have a slightly higher unit, and zero waste. >>>> >>>> Elegant, no? >>>> >>>> Vinay >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Lucas González < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Can't from phone, but I can imagine the H2 wikipage at appropedia. I >>>>> won't ever go to BM (live too far), but I wonder, would a wikipage soon >>>>> be >>>>> helpful for this year's burners, or is it too late? >>>>> Lucas >>>>> El 07/08/2012 09:49, "Lucas González" <[email protected]> >>>>> escribió: >>>>> >>>>> *blasted* Now I see it, thanks!!! >>>>>> /me goes back to sleep, as now the day is done. >>>>>> >>>>>> Seriously, this permanent exercise at seeing and reseeing common >>>>>> panels is quite an experience. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Just four cuts." At most, four more cuts. >>>>>> >>>>>> Brilliant! Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Lucas >>>>>> El 07/08/2012 09:17, "Gavin Harkness" <[email protected]> >>>>>> escribió: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry for the confusion, I should learn more sketchup to show the >>>>>>> details more clearly. The design originates from my prospecting a 1/4 >>>>>>> sized H13 model and visualising a normal 2400x1200 sheet as four >>>>>>> sheets. I >>>>>>> soon realised that if I had two H13 doors on either end, there would be >>>>>>> only one roof joint. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The side walls (S) are 1/4 of a sheet (1200x600), two ends (E) are >>>>>>> then cut from the remaining 1800x1200 sheet. The roof (R) can remain >>>>>>> uncut, or if you think windage is a problem, chop them off and use them >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> a ground insulation inside, or if you want to give the door some >>>>>>> protection >>>>>>> from the elements, cut off two triangles from the rear and add them to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> front. I say, "Horses for courses." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've attached a quick image of the panel cuts. I hope this helps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 8:38:59 AM UTC+1, LucasG wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok, starting to see here. Over at the "H13 plywood" page at >>>>>>>> appropedia, each panel and triangle is named, so let me give that a >>>>>>>> try. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The H4 has, if I understand correctly, at most 10 pieces: 2 roofs >>>>>>>> (R), 4 end walls (E), and 4 small triangles for the 2 side walls (S). >>>>>>>> Each >>>>>>>> R is a full panel minus 2 small triangles. Each E is a big triangle (a >>>>>>>> panel cut thru the diagonal) minus a small triangle (S). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think the third variant of the H4 (does it have a non-normalised >>>>>>>> name?) stands best to wind, no? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is huge. Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lucas >>>>>>>> El 07/08/2012 08:18, "Gavin Harkness" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If those triangles are from the roof panels, well there is no real >>>>>>>>> need to cut them off, if you don't want to (middle model). Another >>>>>>>>> option >>>>>>>>> is to cut of just one end of the shelter's roof triangles and add >>>>>>>>> them to >>>>>>>>> the other end, to make a small awning (left model). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 6, 2012 8:40:21 PM UTC+1, LucasG wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe part of the build van be made *inside* a bigger one that's >>>>>>>>>> already built? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've done a paper model (can't see skp from phone) and I end up >>>>>>>>>> with 4 unused small triangles. Also, I make more cuts than >>>>>>>>>> described. ??? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, if someone could do a flat model of the cuts, I'd really >>>>>>>>>> really appreciate it - I'm just very slow at understanding 3D. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Looks like the family of *shapes* can't grow much more (devilish >>>>>>>>>> grin). For plywood, I wonder what the solution space is for *joints*. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The landscape looks good! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lucas >>>>>>>>>> El 06/08/2012 12:20, "Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)" < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> escribió: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely lovely piece of work, Gavin. Absolutely lovely. I >>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>> this would make an *excellent* first build hexayurt for people >>>>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>>> to Burning Man with a hexayurt for the first time. Not a ton of >>>>>>>>>>> space, >>>>>>>>>>> but *so incredibly easy to build* because it doesn't have the >>>>>>>>>>> complex >>>>>>>>>>> taping of the roof cone, which can be a challenge for first >>>>>>>>>>> timers. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Great work. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Vinay >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Gavin Harkness < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > I'm new to this group, but I've been follow the hexayurt >>>>>>>>>>> website for several >>>>>>>>>>> > years, dreaming of any opportunity to build one. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > I've attached a small contribution to the great work people >>>>>>>>>>> are doing here. >>>>>>>>>>> > It's a Google sketchup design for a 2 people hexayurt, made >>>>>>>>>>> from 4 sheets of >>>>>>>>>>> > 8x4, and can be built with as little as 4 cuts. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > It stands 1.2m high, 2.4m long and just under 2.1m wide. Two >>>>>>>>>>> end panels and >>>>>>>>>>> > one side panel is cut from a single sheet and the roof, in >>>>>>>>>>> it's simplest >>>>>>>>>>> > form, doesn't require any cutting at all. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > If you have any questions, please ask. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups >>>>>>>>>>> > "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>>>>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>> > https://groups.google.com/d/**ms****g/hexayurt/-/svOZ7l70piwJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/hexayurt/-/svOZ7l70piwJ> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> > hexayurt+unsubscribe@**googlegro****ups.com<hexayurt%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>> > http://groups.google.com/**group****/hexayurt?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Vinay Gupta >>>>>>>>>>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc - the Gupta State Failure Management >>>>>>>>>>> Archive >>>>>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_ark - or see it directly on Archive.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering >>>>>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me >>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>> invincible summer" - Albert Camus >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Twitter/Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk/AIM: hexayurt >>>>>>>>>>> UK Cell : +44 (0) 7500 895568 / USA VOIP (+1) 775-743-1851 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> hexayurt+unsubscribe@**googlegro****ups.com<hexayurt%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/* >>>>>>>>>>> *group****/hexayurt?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/**ms**g/hexayurt/-/VVFCRFuLToEJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/hexayurt/-/VVFCRFuLToEJ> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> hexayurt+unsubscribe@**googlegro**ups.com<hexayurt%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>>>> group**/hexayurt?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 8:38:59 AM UTC+1, LucasG wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok, starting to see here. Over at the "H13 plywood" page at >>>>>>>> appropedia, each panel and triangle is named, so let me give that a >>>>>>>> try. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The H4 has, if I understand correctly, at most 10 pieces: 2 roofs >>>>>>>> (R), 4 end walls (E), and 4 small triangles for the 2 side walls (S). >>>>>>>> Each >>>>>>>> R is a full panel minus 2 small triangles. Each E is a big triangle (a >>>>>>>> panel cut thru the diagonal) minus a small triangle (S). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think the third variant of the H4 (does it have a non-normalised >>>>>>>> name?) stands best to wind, no? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is huge. Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lucas >>>>>>>> El 07/08/2012 08:18, "Gavin Harkness" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If those triangles are from the roof panels, well there is no real >>>>>>>>> need to cut them off, if you don't want to (middle model). Another >>>>>>>>> option >>>>>>>>> is to cut of just one end of the shelter's roof triangles and add >>>>>>>>> them to >>>>>>>>> the other end, to make a small awning (left model). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, August 6, 2012 8:40:21 PM UTC+1, LucasG wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe part of the build van be made *inside* a bigger one that's >>>>>>>>>> already built? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've done a paper model (can't see skp from phone) and I end up >>>>>>>>>> with 4 unused small triangles. Also, I make more cuts than >>>>>>>>>> described. ??? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, if someone could do a flat model of the cuts, I'd really >>>>>>>>>> really appreciate it - I'm just very slow at understanding 3D. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Looks like the family of *shapes* can't grow much more (devilish >>>>>>>>>> grin). For plywood, I wonder what the solution space is for *joints*. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The landscape looks good! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lucas >>>>>>>>>> El 06/08/2012 12:20, "Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)" < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> escribió: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely lovely piece of work, Gavin. Absolutely lovely. I >>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>> this would make an *excellent* first build hexayurt for people >>>>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>>> to Burning Man with a hexayurt for the first time. Not a ton of >>>>>>>>>>> space, >>>>>>>>>>> but *so incredibly easy to build* because it doesn't have the >>>>>>>>>>> complex >>>>>>>>>>> taping of the roof cone, which can be a challenge for first >>>>>>>>>>> timers. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Great work. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Vinay >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Gavin Harkness < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> > Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > I'm new to this group, but I've been follow the hexayurt >>>>>>>>>>> website for several >>>>>>>>>>> > years, dreaming of any opportunity to build one. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > I've attached a small contribution to the great work people >>>>>>>>>>> are doing here. >>>>>>>>>>> > It's a Google sketchup design for a 2 people hexayurt, made >>>>>>>>>>> from 4 sheets of >>>>>>>>>>> > 8x4, and can be built with as little as 4 cuts. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > It stands 1.2m high, 2.4m long and just under 2.1m wide. Two >>>>>>>>>>> end panels and >>>>>>>>>>> > one side panel is cut from a single sheet and the roof, in >>>>>>>>>>> it's simplest >>>>>>>>>>> > form, doesn't require any cutting at all. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > If you have any questions, please ask. >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups >>>>>>>>>>> > "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>>>>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>> > https://groups.google.com/d/**ms****g/hexayurt/-/svOZ7l70piwJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/hexayurt/-/svOZ7l70piwJ> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> > hexayurt+unsubscribe@**googlegro****ups.com<hexayurt%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>> > http://groups.google.com/**group****/hexayurt?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Vinay Gupta >>>>>>>>>>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc - 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