Gavin, Wow. Yes. So, whenever the wikipage gets done, this (H4, procrastiyurt, or whatever it gets called) is really a family/group/set of designs.
For plywood, halving the number of cuts (and keeping half the panels whole) is important. Plus you get more places (outside, below the roof) to put blocks and then run screws through. This may well be my first real size yurt ever: plywood, 4 cuts plus a door, will look at how to waterproof the very top. Basically, a third of the cost of an H12, which I wouldn't use anyway. More portable, too! And, not sure, buildable by a single person? Lucas El 07/08/2012 13:04, "Gavin Harkness" <[email protected]> escribió: > And the un-cut roof panel could be re-cycled into a larger hexayurt at a > latter stage. > > On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 1:01:39 PM UTC+1, Gavin Harkness wrote: >> >> In some of my early designs, I looked at using the triangles and cutting >> the panels into thirds (thanks for the reminder, I'd forgotten all about >> that idea). It meetings your goals of zero waste and increases living >> space. From what I remember, some of the reasoning why I decided against >> it was: >> >> - Complicates construction. More measuring and cutting and would >> require joints in the end panels. More skill and time required. >> - The increased height (from 1200 to 1400 or 4' to 4'7") still >> wouldn't allow you to stand up. >> - I like the idea of a little rain protection over the doorway to >> stop the Irish mist from bucketing into the shelter and would allow >> ventilation holes to help control condensation. >> - Easier to keep warm >> - Increased windage. >> - Increased visual pollution. >> >> It's one of the beautiful things about the hexayurt, you can adapt the >> design to meet your needs. >> >> On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 9:58:31 AM UTC+1, Vinay Gupta wrote: >>> >>> >>> They'll be building up until 4AM the day they get into vans ;-) >>> >>> Basically getting an H13 together last minute is not feasible, but doing >>> an H4 is easy - doesn't have the complicated roof geometry to assemble, >>> which is quite hard conceptually. >>> >>> Gavin, if you make the "tall" panels using the offcuts from the roof, >>> you can divide the wall panels into neat thirds (2 boards gives six >>> identical wall pieces) and have a slightly higher unit, and zero waste. >>> >>> Elegant, no? >>> >>> Vinay >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Lucas González < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Can't from phone, but I can imagine the H2 wikipage at appropedia. I >>>> won't ever go to BM (live too far), but I wonder, would a wikipage soon be >>>> helpful for this year's burners, or is it too late? >>>> Lucas >>>> El 07/08/2012 09:49, "Lucas González" <[email protected]> >>>> escribió: >>>> >>>> *blasted* Now I see it, thanks!!! >>>>> /me goes back to sleep, as now the day is done. >>>>> >>>>> Seriously, this permanent exercise at seeing and reseeing common >>>>> panels is quite an experience. >>>>> >>>>> "Just four cuts." At most, four more cuts. >>>>> >>>>> Brilliant! Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Lucas >>>>> El 07/08/2012 09:17, "Gavin Harkness" <[email protected]> escribió: >>>>> >>>>>> Sorry for the confusion, I should learn more sketchup to show the >>>>>> details more clearly. The design originates from my prospecting a 1/4 >>>>>> sized H13 model and visualising a normal 2400x1200 sheet as four sheets. >>>>>> I >>>>>> soon realised that if I had two H13 doors on either end, there would be >>>>>> only one roof joint. >>>>>> >>>>>> The side walls (S) are 1/4 of a sheet (1200x600), two ends (E) are >>>>>> then cut from the remaining 1800x1200 sheet. The roof (R) can remain >>>>>> uncut, or if you think windage is a problem, chop them off and use them >>>>>> as >>>>>> a ground insulation inside, or if you want to give the door some >>>>>> protection >>>>>> from the elements, cut off two triangles from the rear and add them to >>>>>> the >>>>>> front. I say, "Horses for courses." >>>>>> >>>>>> I've attached a quick image of the panel cuts. I hope this helps. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 8:38:59 AM UTC+1, LucasG wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, starting to see here. Over at the "H13 plywood" page at >>>>>>> appropedia, each panel and triangle is named, so let me give that a try. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The H4 has, if I understand correctly, at most 10 pieces: 2 roofs >>>>>>> (R), 4 end walls (E), and 4 small triangles for the 2 side walls (S). >>>>>>> Each >>>>>>> R is a full panel minus 2 small triangles. Each E is a big triangle (a >>>>>>> panel cut thru the diagonal) minus a small triangle (S). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the third variant of the H4 (does it have a non-normalised >>>>>>> name?) stands best to wind, no? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is huge. Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lucas >>>>>>> El 07/08/2012 08:18, "Gavin Harkness" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If those triangles are from the roof panels, well there is no real >>>>>>>> need to cut them off, if you don't want to (middle model). Another >>>>>>>> option >>>>>>>> is to cut of just one end of the shelter's roof triangles and add >>>>>>>> them to >>>>>>>> the other end, to make a small awning (left model). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, August 6, 2012 8:40:21 PM UTC+1, LucasG wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe part of the build van be made *inside* a bigger one that's >>>>>>>>> already built? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've done a paper model (can't see skp from phone) and I end up >>>>>>>>> with 4 unused small triangles. Also, I make more cuts than described. >>>>>>>>> ??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, if someone could do a flat model of the cuts, I'd really >>>>>>>>> really appreciate it - I'm just very slow at understanding 3D. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looks like the family of *shapes* can't grow much more (devilish >>>>>>>>> grin). For plywood, I wonder what the solution space is for *joints*. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The landscape looks good! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lucas >>>>>>>>> El 06/08/2012 12:20, "Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)" < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> escribió: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Absolutely lovely piece of work, Gavin. Absolutely lovely. I think >>>>>>>>>> this would make an *excellent* first build hexayurt for people >>>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>> to Burning Man with a hexayurt for the first time. Not a ton of >>>>>>>>>> space, >>>>>>>>>> but *so incredibly easy to build* because it doesn't have the >>>>>>>>>> complex >>>>>>>>>> taping of the roof cone, which can be a challenge for first >>>>>>>>>> timers. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Great work. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Vinay >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Gavin Harkness < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > Hi, >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > I'm new to this group, but I've been follow the hexayurt >>>>>>>>>> website for several >>>>>>>>>> > years, dreaming of any opportunity to build one. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > I've attached a small contribution to the great work people are >>>>>>>>>> doing here. >>>>>>>>>> > It's a Google sketchup design for a 2 people hexayurt, made >>>>>>>>>> from 4 sheets of >>>>>>>>>> > 8x4, and can be built with as little as 4 cuts. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > It stands 1.2m high, 2.4m long and just under 2.1m wide. Two >>>>>>>>>> end panels and >>>>>>>>>> > one side panel is cut from a single sheet and the roof, in it's >>>>>>>>>> simplest >>>>>>>>>> > form, doesn't require any cutting at all. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > If you have any questions, please ask. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups >>>>>>>>>> > "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>>>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>> > https://groups.google.com/d/**ms****g/hexayurt/-/svOZ7l70piwJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/hexayurt/-/svOZ7l70piwJ> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> > hexayurt+unsubscribe@**googlegro****ups.com<hexayurt%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>> > http://groups.google.com/**group****/hexayurt?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Vinay Gupta >>>>>>>>>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc - the Gupta State Failure Management >>>>>>>>>> Archive >>>>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_ark - or see it directly on Archive.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human sheltering >>>>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture vision >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was in me an >>>>>>>>>> invincible summer" - Albert Camus >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Twitter/Skype/Gizmo/Gtalk/AIM: hexayurt >>>>>>>>>> UK Cell : +44 (0) 7500 895568 / USA VOIP (+1) 775-743-1851 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> hexayurt+unsubscribe@**googlegro****ups.com<hexayurt%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>>>>> group****/hexayurt?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/**ms**g/hexayurt/-/VVFCRFuLToEJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/hexayurt/-/VVFCRFuLToEJ> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to hexayurt+unsubscribe@ >>>>>>>> **googlegro**ups.com <hexayurt%[email protected]>. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>>>>>> group**/hexayurt?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 8:38:59 AM UTC+1, LucasG wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, starting to see here. Over at the "H13 plywood" page at >>>>>>> appropedia, each panel and triangle is named, so let me give that a try. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The H4 has, if I understand correctly, at most 10 pieces: 2 roofs >>>>>>> (R), 4 end walls (E), and 4 small triangles for the 2 side walls (S). >>>>>>> Each >>>>>>> R is a full panel minus 2 small triangles. Each E is a big triangle (a >>>>>>> panel cut thru the diagonal) minus a small triangle (S). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the third variant of the H4 (does it have a non-normalised >>>>>>> name?) stands best to wind, no? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is huge. Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lucas >>>>>>> El 07/08/2012 08:18, "Gavin Harkness" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> escribió: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If those triangles are from the roof panels, well there is no real >>>>>>>> need to cut them off, if you don't want to (middle model). Another >>>>>>>> option >>>>>>>> is to cut of just one end of the shelter's roof triangles and add >>>>>>>> them to >>>>>>>> the other end, to make a small awning (left model). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, August 6, 2012 8:40:21 PM UTC+1, LucasG wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe part of the build van be made *inside* a bigger one that's >>>>>>>>> already built? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've done a paper model (can't see skp from phone) and I end up >>>>>>>>> with 4 unused small triangles. Also, I make more cuts than described. >>>>>>>>> ??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, if someone could do a flat model of the cuts, I'd really >>>>>>>>> really appreciate it - I'm just very slow at understanding 3D. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Looks like the family of *shapes* can't grow much more (devilish >>>>>>>>> grin). For plywood, I wonder what the solution space is for *joints*. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The landscape looks good! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lucas >>>>>>>>> El 06/08/2012 12:20, "Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)" < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> escribió: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Absolutely lovely piece of work, Gavin. Absolutely lovely. I think >>>>>>>>>> this would make an *excellent* first build hexayurt for people >>>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>> to Burning Man with a hexayurt for the first time. Not a ton of >>>>>>>>>> space, >>>>>>>>>> but *so incredibly easy to build* because it doesn't have the >>>>>>>>>> complex >>>>>>>>>> taping of the roof cone, which can be a challenge for first >>>>>>>>>> timers. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Great work. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Vinay >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Gavin Harkness < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > Hi, >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > I'm new to this group, but I've been follow the hexayurt >>>>>>>>>> website for several >>>>>>>>>> > years, dreaming of any opportunity to build one. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > I've attached a small contribution to the great work people are >>>>>>>>>> doing here. >>>>>>>>>> > It's a Google sketchup design for a 2 people hexayurt, made >>>>>>>>>> from 4 sheets of >>>>>>>>>> > 8x4, and can be built with as little as 4 cuts. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > It stands 1.2m high, 2.4m long and just under 2.1m wide. Two >>>>>>>>>> end panels and >>>>>>>>>> > one side panel is cut from a single sheet and the roof, in it's >>>>>>>>>> simplest >>>>>>>>>> > form, doesn't require any cutting at all. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > If you have any questions, please ask. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups >>>>>>>>>> > "hexayurt" group. >>>>>>>>>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>> > https://groups.google.com/d/**ms****g/hexayurt/-/svOZ7l70piwJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/hexayurt/-/svOZ7l70piwJ> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> > hexayurt+unsubscribe@**googlegro****ups.com<hexayurt%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>> > http://groups.google.com/**group****/hexayurt?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Vinay Gupta >>>>>>>>>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc - 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